> The usual way I see this issue framed is: Condom broke. -or- "Conniving" woman poked a hole in the condom. Neither implies reckless teenage abandon. Nowhere

> The usual way I see this issue framed is: Condom broke. -or- "Conniving" woman poked a hole in the condom. Neither implies reckless teenage abandon. Nowhere in this thread was that brought up, and what is the relevance here? Don't put words in our mouths. > Life isn't fair, and sometimes what you do as a teenager has long-term consequences, Yes, like college loans. But people still ask for loan forgiveness. (See what I did there?)