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You're making a mistake that seems to be common in the US. You're assuming politics can just be excluded or ignored somehow. It's an idea that is utterly ridicu

by DasIch 10y ago

You're making a mistake that seems to be common in the US. You're assuming politics can just be excluded or ignored somehow. It's an idea that is utterly ridiculous. Politics is about designing how humans live together. Everything you do or say that somehow has an effect on another human being, whether it is direct or indirect, whether it changes or reaffirms the status quo is political. Continueing to do business with Thiel is just as political as to stop doing business with him. To pretend otherwise only shows both how privileged and ignorant of politics you are.

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Hydraulix989 10y ago
/s/politics/government Yes, and I'm not talking about "social politics" which pervade every social interaction (given we're still very much a tribal species); I'm talking about governing politics -- which political party someone belongs to, which candidate they support, which mainstream opinions they have, etc.
- DasIch 10y ago
  The difference between the two is merely one of scale and often not even that. This election shows this especially well. Gay marriage, abortion and many other issues that are "social politics" are very much on the table.
  - Hydraulix989 10y ago
    The main issues are things like immigration, trade, health care, foreign policy, etc. These social issues are mainly used around election time to polarize and to win voters: Axelrod: Obama Misled Nation When He Opposed Gay Marriage In 2008 http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/ http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/ No matter who is elected, you're going to end up with the same social policies trending towards progress: pro-choice, legal gay marriage, legal marijuana, etc. if Trump ends up in the White House (thankfully he most likely won't), it will look more or less like every other presidency. Trump's "Facism" (or whatever you want to call it) will end up effectively being the same thing (nothing) as Obama's "Change". Remember, we have things like multiple branches of government, checks and balances, and the Constitution; we're not going to just devolve into Nazi Germany because Trump was elected President (contrary to any FUD). THAT is just crazy talk. I've seen ads every year put out by opposing candidates asserting the demise of our society as we know it should said opposition get elected. Every year, it happens...

by DasIch 10y ago

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Hydraulix989 10y ago

/s/politics/government Yes, and I'm not talking about "social politics" which pervade every social interaction (given we're still very much a tribal species); I'm talking about governing politics -- which political party someone belongs to, which candidate they support, which mainstream opinions they have, etc.

DasIch 10y ago
The difference between the two is merely one of scale and often not even that. This election shows this especially well. Gay marriage, abortion and many other issues that are "social politics" are very much on the table.
- Hydraulix989 10y ago
  The main issues are things like immigration, trade, health care, foreign policy, etc. These social issues are mainly used around election time to polarize and to win voters: Axelrod: Obama Misled Nation When He Opposed Gay Marriage In 2008 http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/ http://time.com/3702584/gay-marriage-axelrod-obama/ No matter who is elected, you're going to end up with the same social policies trending towards progress: pro-choice, legal gay marriage, legal marijuana, etc. if Trump ends up in the White House (thankfully he most likely won't), it will look more or less like every other presidency. Trump's "Facism" (or whatever you want to call it) will end up effectively being the same thing (nothing) as Obama's "Change". Remember, we have things like multiple branches of government, checks and balances, and the Constitution; we're not going to just devolve into Nazi Germany because Trump was elected President (contrary to any FUD). THAT is just crazy talk. I've seen ads every year put out by opposing candidates asserting the demise of our society as we know it should said opposition get elected. Every year, it happens...