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So should we despise people who support Hillary too? She's no pure angel either.

by Ar-Curunir 10y ago

mgbmtl 10y ago
Certainly no angel, but doesn't promote hate either. Absence of hail is not sunshine.
- andrewchambers 10y ago
  The only difference between Hillary and Trump is her corruption is complicated enough to sweep under a rug.
  - mgbmtl 10y ago
    She doesn't openly advocate corruption. If you seek leadership in your organization and that leader openly advocates corruption, then that's a clear red flag. For the rest, trust due process and facts. ps: I'm Canadian, I couldn't care less. In most provinces, both candidates would be considered center-right and hawkish war-mongers. edit: I do care, in terms of avoiding populism and war, but I'm not a strong Clinton advocate either. Just a concerned neighbour.
esrauch 10y ago
If Hillary (or Trump) say things so despicable that could reasonably get you fired if you weren't repeating a presidential candidate, then we should despise anyone who repeats those words or explicitly supports those words. I'm not currently aware of things that Hillary said that would be considered independently reprehensible if my coworker said them, but if I missed it I'd like to hear it, but if such statements exist I would have no problem saying anyone who repeated such statements should be despised. If someone says they support some weird tax plan, it also doesn't matter whether some mainstream candidate proposed it, that is simply never grounds for disciplinary action. If someone says that women simply don't belong in the board room, that is grounds for disciplinary regardless of which party candidate said it before you.
- DougN7 10y ago
  I'm not saying it was you, but folks on HN have defended the rights of people to publish rape fantasy. That, in my opinion, is at least as bad, and probably worse. No one called for them to lose their jobs. The hypocrisy is hard to deal with.
- baddox 10y ago
  Hillary has some views and statements that I find reprehensible, but the contrast with Trump would make most of my complaints seem silly.
- Ar-Curunir 10y ago
  Yes, but Hillary has done some despicable things, like defending a child rapist (and laughing about it).

So should we despise people who support Hillary too? She's no pure angel either.

mgbmtl 10y ago

Certainly no angel, but doesn't promote hate either. Absence of hail is not sunshine.

andrewchambers 10y ago
The only difference between Hillary and Trump is her corruption is complicated enough to sweep under a rug.
- mgbmtl 10y ago
  She doesn't openly advocate corruption. If you seek leadership in your organization and that leader openly advocates corruption, then that's a clear red flag. For the rest, trust due process and facts. ps: I'm Canadian, I couldn't care less. In most provinces, both candidates would be considered center-right and hawkish war-mongers. edit: I do care, in terms of avoiding populism and war, but I'm not a strong Clinton advocate either. Just a concerned neighbour.

esrauch 10y ago

If Hillary (or Trump) say things so despicable that could reasonably get you fired if you weren't repeating a presidential candidate, then we should despise anyone who repeats those words or explicitly supports those words. I'm not currently aware of things that Hillary said that would be considered independently reprehensible if my coworker said them, but if I missed it I'd like to hear it, but if such statements exist I would have no problem saying anyone who repeated such statements should be despised. If someone says they support some weird tax plan, it also doesn't matter whether some mainstream candidate proposed it, that is simply never grounds for disciplinary action. If someone says that women simply don't belong in the board room, that is grounds for disciplinary regardless of which party candidate said it before you.

DougN7 10y ago
I'm not saying it was you, but folks on HN have defended the rights of people to publish rape fantasy. That, in my opinion, is at least as bad, and probably worse. No one called for them to lose their jobs. The hypocrisy is hard to deal with.
baddox 10y ago
Hillary has some views and statements that I find reprehensible, but the contrast with Trump would make most of my complaints seem silly.
Ar-Curunir 10y ago
Yes, but Hillary has done some despicable things, like defending a child rapist (and laughing about it).