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That's just binary? I find hex notation much easier to use and to communicate verbally.

by xupybd 10y ago

ChuckMcM 10y ago
I was thinking the same thing. If you're going binary just have a 4 x 4 dice face with different numbers of dots filled in.
- js8 10y ago
  For fun, I have designed a font like that once. Each hex digit was 4x4 grid, and there were (visually distinct and symmetric if possible) patterns of 0-15 filled dots. I also thought about an extension for having a symbol for each byte value in 16x16 grid. The lower half byte would determine a 4x4 pattern, which would be repeated over the 16x16 grid according to the pattern corresponding to the higher half byte.
colejohnson66 10y ago
If you can fit up to 16 "symbols" per "place", like you can here, it's hexadecimal, no? Either way, 0-F is a lot easier.
- FoeNyx 10y ago
  > Either way, 0-F is a lot easier. Easier for us because it's the conventional way hexadecimal was represented in computer history, and how we learned it. That rune-like system is more "logical" in the way you can visually read the value by summing the segments/bits value composing the berkanam rune from least significant at top to the most significant at bottom.
nabla9 10y ago
There are 16 symbols, so it's hexadecimal. The symbols themselves neatly match the binary representation of 4 bits, so you can look at the numbers and see them as binary numbers in groups of four if you wish. These would be great hexadecimal symbols for programmers.
- Gracana 10y ago
  I get what the parent is saying, though. It's just binary digits on a weird looking vertical number line. Each part of the "digit" may as well be a zero or a 1, because that's all it represents. Position tells us what the value is, 2^0, 2^1, 2^2, or 2^3, no need for different symbols. And while we're at it, let's write it left-to-right MSB first, because that's how other numbers work, and it fits on a line nicely, like so: 0101.
adrianratnapala 10y ago
The point is that as you get used to reading them, you will recognise the complete glyph as a hex digit, without puzzling over the binary details. Just like reading any other script. This does not work for quartets like 0100
- xupybd 10y ago
  This is a good point, but you get the same from standard Hex notation. But standard Hex notation has the advantage that I can say FF to someone, but how do I pronounce these things? I guess this could have merit, but I just don't have much of an issue using standard Hex notation.

That's just binary? I find hex notation much easier to use and to communicate verbally.

by xupybd 10y ago

That's just binary? I find hex notation much easier to use and to communicate verbally.

I was thinking the same thing. If you're going binary just have a 4 x 4 dice face with different numbers of dots filled in.

js8 10y ago
For fun, I have designed a font like that once. Each hex digit was 4x4 grid, and there were (visually distinct and symmetric if possible) patterns of 0-15 filled dots. I also thought about an extension for having a symbol for each byte value in 16x16 grid. The lower half byte would determine a 4x4 pattern, which would be repeated over the 16x16 grid according to the pattern corresponding to the higher half byte.

colejohnson66 10y ago

If you can fit up to 16 "symbols" per "place", like you can here, it's hexadecimal, no? Either way, 0-F is a lot easier.

FoeNyx 10y ago
> Either way, 0-F is a lot easier. Easier for us because it's the conventional way hexadecimal was represented in computer history, and how we learned it. That rune-like system is more "logical" in the way you can visually read the value by summing the segments/bits value composing the berkanam rune from least significant at top to the most significant at bottom.

nabla9 10y ago

There are 16 symbols, so it's hexadecimal. The symbols themselves neatly match the binary representation of 4 bits, so you can look at the numbers and see them as binary numbers in groups of four if you wish. These would be great hexadecimal symbols for programmers.

Gracana 10y ago
I get what the parent is saying, though. It's just binary digits on a weird looking vertical number line. Each part of the "digit" may as well be a zero or a 1, because that's all it represents. Position tells us what the value is, 2^0, 2^1, 2^2, or 2^3, no need for different symbols. And while we're at it, let's write it left-to-right MSB first, because that's how other numbers work, and it fits on a line nicely, like so: 0101.

adrianratnapala 10y ago

The point is that as you get used to reading them, you will recognise the complete glyph as a hex digit, without puzzling over the binary details. Just like reading any other script. This does not work for quartets like 0100

xupybd 10y ago
This is a good point, but you get the same from standard Hex notation. But standard Hex notation has the advantage that I can say FF to someone, but how do I pronounce these things? I guess this could have merit, but I just don't have much of an issue using standard Hex notation.