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I haven't kept up, but have any of the accusations been proven yet? Last I checked they were all allegations.
by tenpies 10y ago
I haven't kept up, but have any of the accusations been proven yet? Last I checked they were all allegations.
- jsprogrammer 10y agoThere are many accusations that Trump engaged in the behavior he voluntarily described himself behaving in. I don't think that matters though. He is already on the record encouraging (and bragging about) coercion; it is completely antithetical to libertarianism.
- mikeash 10y agoThere's a video of him saying he does it. That might not be enough to convict him in court, by personally I don't see why I shouldn't take him at his word on that.
- Frondo 10y agoWhen just two people are in the room, you won't find it possible to "prove" anything. But there is, of course, no reason to doubt the honesty of the women involved. Why wouldn't you trust them?
- jsprogrammer 10y agoBecause Donald Trump seems to call the accusations "completely fabricated". Why wouldn't you trust Donald Trump?
- Frondo 10y agoI don't trust him because of his repeated bragging statements about dishonest business practices and his habitual lying about things he's said in the past (e.g. recorded statement of him saying something, his future claim he never said it, etc)
- zo1 10y agoI could think of at least four possible reasons to doubt their accusations. Some of which wouldn't sit well with people. 1. The accusers are being blackmailed into doing it. 2. Or they are being bribed by people wanting to influence the election. 3. Or they want to be famous. 4. Or they have a personal vendetta against Donald Trump. There is a reason we have courts, trials and burdens of proof. And the convenient timing of some of these accusations doesn't help, either.
- Frondo 10y agoCan you prove they are being blackmailed, bribed, want to be famous (several already are, of course, for their own careers and lives), or have a personal vendetta? I mean, on the one hand, you have a lot of women who tell the same sort of story, and I trust people until I have an actual (not hypothetical) reason to assume they're lying. On the other hand, you have the guy who brags about dishonest business practices and lies (and this is all on video) about his past statements. Trump has given me lots of reasons not to trust him. Starting now to trust him, because women are involved, that doesn't make sense to me.
- jsprogrammer 10y agoThere is also the blatant fact that allegations being made are exactly the behavior he voluntarily described himself engaging in.