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One of the few companies out there who give me hope. Switched all my projects to GitLab a while ago, never looked back.

by dudul 10y ago

messutied 10y ago
I live in Germany, and feel Gitlab website is quite slow :/ is it supposed to be as snappy as Github?
- YorickPeterse 10y ago
  This depends a bit on what parts of GitLab(.com) you're using. For example, viewing issues should generally be as fast as GitHub.com (http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902794/2016/10 http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902794/2016/10 vs http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902795/2016/10 http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902795/2016/10). Other parts may be a bit slower; pushing for example can still be a bit slow at times.
- dudul 10y ago
  I'm on the East Coast. For a while GitLab was quite slow. Much better now. They made a lot of progress in the past 3 or 4 releases. However, I agree that GitHub is still better in terms of performance. Now, I put things like tooling, pricing model, features, and ethic of the company above performance :)
  - sytse 10y ago
    Thanks for sticking with us Dudul. We want to make sure performance will also be a reason to pick us and are working on it in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues?scope=all&state=opened&utf8=%E2%9C%93&label_name%5B%5D=Performance https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues?scope=all&sta... and https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues?scope=all&state=opened&utf8=%E2%9C%93&label_name%5B%5D=performance https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues?scope=al...
- sytse 10y ago
  It is our ambition to make GitLab.com as fast as GitHub.com but currently we're slower. Please see https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/59 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/59 for more information on how we're working to improve this.
  - Fej 10y ago
    Wow, that's surprisingly candid.
  - messutied 10y ago
    Thanks for this, I'm slowly moving over to Gitlab anyways :) I just love how open it is
- dustinmoris 10y ago
  Don't put your hopes up too much. GitLab does not even have half the community that GitHab has but their service is already a multiple times slower. From my experience if something already starts off really badly, then any attempts to retrospectively fix major issues in their core system rarely work out well. The more successful GitLab will be, the more their service will fall apart under its own weight. This is what happens when you aggressively undersell your service. GitLab are not magicians. Cheap remains cheap in the end.
- tscs37 10y ago
  If you're into self-hosting, you can check Gogs which is probably the most lightweight Github-like platform (but also the one with the least features)
- tscs37 10y ago
  If you're into self-hosting, you can check Gogs which is probably the most lightweight Github-like platform (but also the one with the least features)
nodesocket 10y ago
Can you give concrete reasons why you switched to GitLab? As a engineering founder myself, I think just copying GitHub and uncutting on price (developers are notorious cheap) is not great innovation. Though, if there are specific features that GitLab does better or has over GitHub willing to hear those. I pay $50 a month to GitHub (two organizations) and that is still amazing value for a tool that I use ridiculously and daily. Anybody who complains about GitHub's pricing is well...
- vonklaus 10y ago
  I use gitlab because it is free and embodies ethics inline with my own. There has been a conversation that has appeared to be largely one-sided-- developers asking for more features, control, consideration ect; and it github largely seemed to be ignoring these concerns. A large group of popular open source contributors wrote an open letter to github and even then, there was not much change until gitlab responded. Github is a much larger organization, and it does a lot of good. However, I like gitlab, they are engaged in the community, really love their users (thanks for the tshirts btw!) and they do things like this-- apologise for their mistakes and listen to their users. So yes, even though they both just copied open source software created by linus torvalds, the great innovation is building a community around that infrastructure, to which I think gitlab is doing a better job at present.
  - nodesocket 10y ago
    Ok few things I'd like to address. "...developers asking for more features, control, consideration ect; and it github largely seemed to be ignoring these concerns." Users will always ask for more features, or a specific functionality that addresses their single pain point. Rushing to add these things causes technical debt and dilutes your product. Beautiful products should be simple. The right approach is to listen to users and figure out the root cause of their pains, and then perhaps decide if the need is big enough address it. "It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them." — Steve Jobs "So yes, even though they both just copied open source software created by linus torvalds..." Ok have to stop you here. The git protocol and cli indeed was written by Linus, but git never tackled how to bring it into a beautiful web interface. git never brought social interaction (issues, pull requests) into coding. GitHub created a lot of innovation in their product and technically.

One of the few companies out there who give me hope. Switched all my projects to GitLab a while ago, never looked back.

by dudul 10y ago

One of the few companies out there who give me hope. Switched all my projects to GitLab a while ago, never looked back.

messutied 10y ago

I live in Germany, and feel Gitlab website is quite slow :/ is it supposed to be as snappy as Github?

YorickPeterse 10y ago
This depends a bit on what parts of GitLab(.com) you're using. For example, viewing issues should generally be as fast as GitHub.com (http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902794/2016/10 http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902794/2016/10 vs http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902795/2016/10 http://stats.pingdom.com/81vpf8jyr1h9/1902795/2016/10). Other parts may be a bit slower; pushing for example can still be a bit slow at times.
dudul 10y ago
I'm on the East Coast. For a while GitLab was quite slow. Much better now. They made a lot of progress in the past 3 or 4 releases. However, I agree that GitHub is still better in terms of performance. Now, I put things like tooling, pricing model, features, and ethic of the company above performance :)
- sytse 10y ago
  Thanks for sticking with us Dudul. We want to make sure performance will also be a reason to pick us and are working on it in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues?scope=all&state=opened&utf8=%E2%9C%93&label_name%5B%5D=Performance https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues?scope=all&sta... and https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues?scope=all&state=opened&utf8=%E2%9C%93&label_name%5B%5D=performance https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues?scope=al...
sytse 10y ago
It is our ambition to make GitLab.com as fast as GitHub.com but currently we're slower. Please see https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/59 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/infrastructure/issues/59 for more information on how we're working to improve this.
- Fej 10y ago
  Wow, that's surprisingly candid.
- messutied 10y ago
  Thanks for this, I'm slowly moving over to Gitlab anyways :) I just love how open it is
dustinmoris 10y ago
Don't put your hopes up too much. GitLab does not even have half the community that GitHab has but their service is already a multiple times slower. From my experience if something already starts off really badly, then any attempts to retrospectively fix major issues in their core system rarely work out well. The more successful GitLab will be, the more their service will fall apart under its own weight. This is what happens when you aggressively undersell your service. GitLab are not magicians. Cheap remains cheap in the end.
tscs37 10y ago
If you're into self-hosting, you can check Gogs which is probably the most lightweight Github-like platform (but also the one with the least features)
tscs37 10y ago
If you're into self-hosting, you can check Gogs which is probably the most lightweight Github-like platform (but also the one with the least features)

nodesocket 10y ago

Can you give concrete reasons why you switched to GitLab? As a engineering founder myself, I think just copying GitHub and uncutting on price (developers are notorious cheap) is not great innovation. Though, if there are specific features that GitLab does better or has over GitHub willing to hear those. I pay $50 a month to GitHub (two organizations) and that is still amazing value for a tool that I use ridiculously and daily. Anybody who complains about GitHub's pricing is well...

vonklaus 10y ago
I use gitlab because it is free and embodies ethics inline with my own. There has been a conversation that has appeared to be largely one-sided-- developers asking for more features, control, consideration ect; and it github largely seemed to be ignoring these concerns. A large group of popular open source contributors wrote an open letter to github and even then, there was not much change until gitlab responded. Github is a much larger organization, and it does a lot of good. However, I like gitlab, they are engaged in the community, really love their users (thanks for the tshirts btw!) and they do things like this-- apologise for their mistakes and listen to their users. So yes, even though they both just copied open source software created by linus torvalds, the great innovation is building a community around that infrastructure, to which I think gitlab is doing a better job at present.
- nodesocket 10y ago
  Ok few things I'd like to address. "...developers asking for more features, control, consideration ect; and it github largely seemed to be ignoring these concerns." Users will always ask for more features, or a specific functionality that addresses their single pain point. Rushing to add these things causes technical debt and dilutes your product. Beautiful products should be simple. The right approach is to listen to users and figure out the root cause of their pains, and then perhaps decide if the need is big enough address it. "It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them." — Steve Jobs "So yes, even though they both just copied open source software created by linus torvalds..." Ok have to stop you here. The git protocol and cli indeed was written by Linus, but git never tackled how to bring it into a beautiful web interface. git never brought social interaction (issues, pull requests) into coding. GitHub created a lot of innovation in their product and technically.