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I assure you it makes a lot of sense and is practiced by several labs from around the world. Hardware is not software - you don't simply compile it in your com

by aylons 10y ago

I assure you it makes a lot of sense and is practiced by several labs from around the world. Hardware is not software - you don't simply compile it in your computer. You don't pay other company to just do just give support to you: you license to them so they can tweak it, manufacture, and sell the hardware to you and other research labs.

ZenoArrow 10y ago
> "You don't pay other company to just do just give support to you: you license to them so they can tweak it" Open-source support companies can still tweak the software for you, and are free to do so because of the permissive licences. Take a look at the business model section of Red Hat's Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat
rstuart4133 10y ago
> Also, a non-commercial license restrict sharing between labs, or even use for some entities that work as government contractors. That is one of the more bizarre things I've read here. You are saying an licence whose terms explicit permit copying for free are worse at sharing than licences that forbid it doing sharing it, ever. > You don't pay other company to just do just give support to you: you license to them so they can tweak it, manufacture, and sell the hardware to you and other research labs. That's just weird. The people who maintain my car didn't make it, the people who supply me my email didn't design it, the people who run my government don't own it. All the software I run has security patches supplied within hours, for free, by people who didn't write it and don't own it. And yes, they are faster and break less than their commercial "upgrade to the new version" counterparts. You and your labs live in an alternate universe to me, my friend.
- aylons 10y ago
  Yes, I live in the high-complexity, low-volume hardware universe. Quite different from cars and software.

by aylons 10y ago

ZenoArrow 10y ago

> "You don't pay other company to just do just give support to you: you license to them so they can tweak it" Open-source support companies can still tweak the software for you, and are free to do so because of the permissive licences. Take a look at the business model section of Red Hat's Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hat

rstuart4133 10y ago

> Also, a non-commercial license restrict sharing between labs, or even use for some entities that work as government contractors. That is one of the more bizarre things I've read here. You are saying an licence whose terms explicit permit copying for free are worse at sharing than licences that forbid it doing sharing it, ever. > You don't pay other company to just do just give support to you: you license to them so they can tweak it, manufacture, and sell the hardware to you and other research labs. That's just weird. The people who maintain my car didn't make it, the people who supply me my email didn't design it, the people who run my government don't own it. All the software I run has security patches supplied within hours, for free, by people who didn't write it and don't own it. And yes, they are faster and break less than their commercial "upgrade to the new version" counterparts. You and your labs live in an alternate universe to me, my friend.

aylons 10y ago
Yes, I live in the high-complexity, low-volume hardware universe. Quite different from cars and software.