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The Most Important WikiLeaks Revelation Isn’t About Hillary Clinton

33 points by MollyR 10y ago

gragas 10y ago
Really? - Hillary and her team deliberately trying to trick the FBI by giving them a "slightly broader" set of emails [1]: "What that means specifically is that they are going to turn over all the Blumenthal emails to the Committee that they hav along with some other HRC emails that include a slightly broader set of search terms than the original batch. That of course includes the emails Sid turned over that HRC didn't, which will make clear to them that she didn't have them in the first place, deleted them, or didn't turn them over." - Purposefully witholding all emails that were between HRC and POTUS [2]: "Think we should hold emails to and from potus? That's the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but I seems like they will." - Evidence that the DNC purchased craigslist ads in attempt to frame Trump [3] "We’re proud to maintain a “fun” and “friendly work environment, where the boss is always available to meet with his employees. Like it or not, he may greet you with a kiss on the lips or grope you under the meeting table. Interested applicants should send resume, cover letter, and headshot to jobs@trump.com<mailto:jobs@trump.com>" 1. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272 2. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9545 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9545 3. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803
- dpark 10y ago
  > Evidence that the DNC purchased craigslist ads in attempt to frame Trump Is that actually evidence of an attempt to frame Trump? This is very clearly a fake ad. No one would see this and think it's real. This looks like a political ad in very poor taste.
- TYPE_FASTER 10y ago
  From: http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house... Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email server—its was owned by the Republican National Committee. ---- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controv... ---- The reason the GOP can't get scandal traction is it has done every one of these things in the past. Guys, it's been like 10-16 years (depending on the scandal). We haven't forgotten yet.
shoehornhands 10y ago
I can't believe the complete media blackout of these emails. Maybe it has changed since a day or two ago, when I checked around, but here's how it stood: - CNN: zero coverage. top story = Trump accused of groping - MSNBC: zero coverage. top story = Trump accused of groping - New York Times: actually mentioned the emails and a bit of their content...in an small article. Below the fold. Titled "Trump Finds Unusual Ally in Wikileaks" which was almost entirely about how Trump's campaign is pleased with the leak, actual content of the emails was only alluded to in a couple of sentences toward the very end of the article. top story? Trump accused of groping. My biggest disappointment was the Financial Times - I held out so much hope that they would actually have some integrity and report about these frankly huge stories. Nope. Zero coverage, top US politics story = Trump accused of groping. The only places I saw that covered were Fox, drudgereport, and Breitbart. I saw RT.com had a story about them today but I don't know if they reported on it two days ago when I checked around. I haven't seen anything like this outside of state-run newspapers like Pravda...it feels like everyone's taking crazy pills. Maybe someone can just do an s/Clinton/Trump/g and send them to the Times?
- tzs 10y ago
  The emails the article is talking about don't seem all that interesting. Basically, they show that the Obama organization and Democratic party officials were working on figuring out staffing well before the election. I would hope that every competent Presidential candidate does that.
  - shoehornhands 10y ago
    I was referring to the email dump in general. There are enormous stories in there, any one of which if they involved Trump instead of Clinton would be front page top story, no question. With regard to the specific subset of emails OP's article refers to, I believe the big deal is that a Citigroup executive basically had his pick of all these positions.
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wangii 10y ago
I normally laugh at conspiracy theories, but in this election it's hard to not see one.
akytt 10y ago
Wikileaks has become a weapon of information warfare. What part of the cache was doctored? What was left out? The big publications know that and won't be provoked. This is an admirable move by Russians: they steer the campaign as well as rob Wikileaks of any merit it has for the society.
- shoehornhands 10y ago
  > What part of the cache was doctored? What was left out? The big publications know that and won't be provoked. This is a very good point. However, I don't think it applies in this case, since for this to be true, it would imply that had this been Trump's campaign manager's email account that was hacked with similar Trump-related campaign revelations contained in it, the mainstream media would refuse to report it for the same reason. And I don't believe that for a tenth of a second.
relics443 10y ago
"Trump would legitimately be a terrifying leader of the free world" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

33 points by MollyR 10y ago

Really? - Hillary and her team deliberately trying to trick the FBI by giving them a "slightly broader" set of emails [1]: "What that means specifically is that they are going to turn over all the Blumenthal emails to the Committee that they hav along with some other HRC emails that include a slightly broader set of search terms than the original batch. That of course includes the emails Sid turned over that HRC didn't, which will make clear to them that she didn't have them in the first place, deleted them, or didn't turn them over." - Purposefully witholding all emails that were between HRC and POTUS [2]: "Think we should hold emails to and from potus? That's the heart of his exec privilege. We could get them to ask for that. They may not care, but I seems like they will." - Evidence that the DNC purchased craigslist ads in attempt to frame Trump [3] "We’re proud to maintain a “fun” and “friendly work environment, where the boss is always available to meet with his employees. Like it or not, he may greet you with a kiss on the lips or grope you under the meeting table. Interested applicants should send resume, cover letter, and headshot to jobs@trump.com<mailto:jobs@trump.com>" 1. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9272 2. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9545 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/9545 3. https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803 https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12803

dpark 10y ago
> Evidence that the DNC purchased craigslist ads in attempt to frame Trump Is that actually evidence of an attempt to frame Trump? This is very clearly a fake ad. No one would see this and think it's real. This looks like a political ad in very poor taste.
TYPE_FASTER 10y ago
From: http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house-lost-22-million-emails-497373.html http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/23/george-w-bush-white-house... Between 2003 and 2009, the Bush White House “lost” 22 million emails. Like Clinton, the Bush White House used a private email server—its was owned by the Republican National Committee. ---- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controv... ---- The reason the GOP can't get scandal traction is it has done every one of these things in the past. Guys, it's been like 10-16 years (depending on the scandal). We haven't forgotten yet.

shoehornhands 10y ago

I can't believe the complete media blackout of these emails. Maybe it has changed since a day or two ago, when I checked around, but here's how it stood: - CNN: zero coverage. top story = Trump accused of groping - MSNBC: zero coverage. top story = Trump accused of groping - New York Times: actually mentioned the emails and a bit of their content...in an small article. Below the fold. Titled "Trump Finds Unusual Ally in Wikileaks" which was almost entirely about how Trump's campaign is pleased with the leak, actual content of the emails was only alluded to in a couple of sentences toward the very end of the article. top story? Trump accused of groping. My biggest disappointment was the Financial Times - I held out so much hope that they would actually have some integrity and report about these frankly huge stories. Nope. Zero coverage, top US politics story = Trump accused of groping. The only places I saw that covered were Fox, drudgereport, and Breitbart. I saw RT.com had a story about them today but I don't know if they reported on it two days ago when I checked around. I haven't seen anything like this outside of state-run newspapers like Pravda...it feels like everyone's taking crazy pills. Maybe someone can just do an s/Clinton/Trump/g and send them to the Times?

tzs 10y ago
The emails the article is talking about don't seem all that interesting. Basically, they show that the Obama organization and Democratic party officials were working on figuring out staffing well before the election. I would hope that every competent Presidential candidate does that.
- shoehornhands 10y ago
  I was referring to the email dump in general. There are enormous stories in there, any one of which if they involved Trump instead of Clinton would be front page top story, no question. With regard to the specific subset of emails OP's article refers to, I believe the big deal is that a Citigroup executive basically had his pick of all these positions.
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wangii 10y ago

I normally laugh at conspiracy theories, but in this election it's hard to not see one.

akytt 10y ago

Wikileaks has become a weapon of information warfare. What part of the cache was doctored? What was left out? The big publications know that and won't be provoked. This is an admirable move by Russians: they steer the campaign as well as rob Wikileaks of any merit it has for the society.

shoehornhands 10y ago
> What part of the cache was doctored? What was left out? The big publications know that and won't be provoked. This is a very good point. However, I don't think it applies in this case, since for this to be true, it would imply that had this been Trump's campaign manager's email account that was hacked with similar Trump-related campaign revelations contained in it, the mainstream media would refuse to report it for the same reason. And I don't believe that for a tenth of a second.

relics443 10y ago

"Trump would legitimately be a terrifying leader of the free world" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯