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Surely this won't be abused to push an agenda. The Ministry of Truth prevails! Expect copious amounts of this: http://i.imgur.com/1Y0sN6b.png http://i.imgur.co

Surely this won't be abused to push an agenda. The Ministry of Truth prevails! Expect copious amounts of this: http://i.imgur.com/1Y0sN6b.png http://i.imgur.com/1Y0sN6b.png

nathancahill 10y ago
"Please visit my personal website for unbiased fact checking."
witty_username 10y ago
Genuinely curious; did you read the headline? Google is labeling articles based on the type; not saying whether something is a fact or not.
- pdx 10y ago
  It's a trust symbol. You must know that. If Google puts those words in front of an article, it promotes that article as authoritative. They're not saying "Other Opinions", they're saying "Fact Check".
  - witty_username 10y ago
    It doesn't make it authoritative or a trust symbol. They're just saying the type of article, such as an editorial or fact check. I don't automatically trust fact checks as being the truth.
    - DanBC 10y ago
      > I don't The need for sites like snopes and all the other fact checking sites shows that most people do in fact believe everything they read on the Internet, especially if it aligns with their existing biases. That's one of the reasons why the Coen brothers included the "this is a true story" thing - they wondered how many people would believe it the film was true if they put a simple bit of text at the beginning.
      - nickff 10y ago
        I'd bet that most people who 'fact-check' something (political) on the internet are seeking to disprove it, because they disagreed. Most people seem to react to things they agree with by saying "see? That's just what I thought!"
- sergiotapia 10y ago
  You need to read the article again. They are allowing anyone to label their site as a "Fact checking site". Just use ClaimReview and my-agenda-is-the-truth.com can be put in front of the eyes of millions of people who only read the title.
  - witty_username 10y ago
    So? Why would you trust someone just because they say they're fact checking?
    - philipov 10y ago
      Well, it looks like google is the one saying they're fact-checking, and people trust google.
      - witty_username 10y ago
        So, that just makes me trust the page is fact checking, but doesn't tell me the accuracy of the page's fact checking.
wyoh 10y ago
I have to ask, is this a parody or did NBC really publish that?
- sergiotapia 10y ago
  Oh it's real.
  - philipov 10y ago
    link post or it didn't happen.
    - dominotw 10y ago
      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nbc+news+fact+check+trump+acid+wash+twitter http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nbc+news+fact+check+trump+acid+wash+twi...
      - philipov 10y ago
        Funny that google found it. I both manually scrolled through NBC's twitter feed (what a nightmare) and used twitter's advanced search looking for "FACT CHECK" and couldn't find it either way.
    - sergiotapia 10y ago
      https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465 https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465 Mirror: http://archive.is/JBUzM http://archive.is/JBUzM
dj-wonk 10y ago
Here's the text behind the link (which I recommend!): The Claim: Trump says Clinton 'acid washed' her email server. The Truth: Clinton's team used an app called BleachBit; she did not use a corrosive chemical.
politicsbluhh 10y ago
Maybe I'm missing your point, but that seems legitimate to me. It seems inane to us, but there are plenty of people out there who probably believe actual chemicals were used, so clarifying that wasn't the case makes sense. And Donald Trump himself clearly did believe that. This comment[0] from yesterday has his full quotes explaining it all, so I won't bother repeating it here. [0]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12711892 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12711892
- sergiotapia 10y ago
  See you could hyothetically have a point with this individual instance. But then you notice a trend of similar things happening over and over and over and over and over...
  - 2AF3 10y ago
    Like every media organization suddenly doing 'fact checks', using the same term to push the same lies everywhere all at once.
DefaultUserHN 10y ago
We're gonna see a ton of this... Trump: "Hillary washed her money." Media: "Wrong! Hillary laundered her money."

Surely this won't be abused to push an agenda. The Ministry of Truth prevails! Expect copious amounts of this: http://i.imgur.com/1Y0sN6b.png http://i.imgur.com/1Y0sN6b.png

nathancahill 10y ago

"Please visit my personal website for unbiased fact checking."

witty_username 10y ago

Genuinely curious; did you read the headline? Google is labeling articles based on the type; not saying whether something is a fact or not.

pdx 10y ago
It's a trust symbol. You must know that. If Google puts those words in front of an article, it promotes that article as authoritative. They're not saying "Other Opinions", they're saying "Fact Check".
- witty_username 10y ago
  It doesn't make it authoritative or a trust symbol. They're just saying the type of article, such as an editorial or fact check. I don't automatically trust fact checks as being the truth.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    > I don't The need for sites like snopes and all the other fact checking sites shows that most people do in fact believe everything they read on the Internet, especially if it aligns with their existing biases. That's one of the reasons why the Coen brothers included the "this is a true story" thing - they wondered how many people would believe it the film was true if they put a simple bit of text at the beginning.
    - nickff 10y ago
      I'd bet that most people who 'fact-check' something (political) on the internet are seeking to disprove it, because they disagreed. Most people seem to react to things they agree with by saying "see? That's just what I thought!"
sergiotapia 10y ago
You need to read the article again. They are allowing anyone to label their site as a "Fact checking site". Just use ClaimReview and my-agenda-is-the-truth.com can be put in front of the eyes of millions of people who only read the title.
- witty_username 10y ago
  So? Why would you trust someone just because they say they're fact checking?
  - philipov 10y ago
    Well, it looks like google is the one saying they're fact-checking, and people trust google.
    - witty_username 10y ago
      So, that just makes me trust the page is fact checking, but doesn't tell me the accuracy of the page's fact checking.

wyoh 10y ago

I have to ask, is this a parody or did NBC really publish that?

sergiotapia 10y ago
Oh it's real.
- philipov 10y ago
  link post or it didn't happen.
  - dominotw 10y ago
    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nbc+news+fact+check+trump+acid+wash+twitter http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nbc+news+fact+check+trump+acid+wash+twi...
    - philipov 10y ago
      Funny that google found it. I both manually scrolled through NBC's twitter feed (what a nightmare) and used twitter's advanced search looking for "FACT CHECK" and couldn't find it either way.
  - sergiotapia 10y ago
    https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465 https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/785299709342654465 Mirror: http://archive.is/JBUzM http://archive.is/JBUzM

dj-wonk 10y ago

Here's the text behind the link (which I recommend!): The Claim: Trump says Clinton 'acid washed' her email server. The Truth: Clinton's team used an app called BleachBit; she did not use a corrosive chemical.

politicsbluhh 10y ago

Maybe I'm missing your point, but that seems legitimate to me. It seems inane to us, but there are plenty of people out there who probably believe actual chemicals were used, so clarifying that wasn't the case makes sense. And Donald Trump himself clearly did believe that. This comment[0] from yesterday has his full quotes explaining it all, so I won't bother repeating it here. [0]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12711892 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12711892

sergiotapia 10y ago
See you could hyothetically have a point with this individual instance. But then you notice a trend of similar things happening over and over and over and over and over...
- 2AF3 10y ago
  Like every media organization suddenly doing 'fact checks', using the same term to push the same lies everywhere all at once.

DefaultUserHN 10y ago

We're gonna see a ton of this... Trump: "Hillary washed her money." Media: "Wrong! Hillary laundered her money."