> I think it's the people who use it. They just don't care. A successful project needs to be started by someone that cares just enough, but not too much. My pe

> I think it's the people who use it. They just don't care. A successful project needs to be started by someone that cares just enough, but not too much. My perception of the Clojure crowd is the exact opposite. They seem to be a bit too in love with the process and craft and not enough with the end results. That being said, I'd much rather code Clojure as a day job (I promise to be market focused!) than PHP. Right now I am almost all Python. There are definitely a lot of Python folks who are too much enamored with the craft, but the crowd is so big there's plenty of room for the GTD folks.