1> Yes there is plenty of room to innovate on implementation, but they still want input to the scope of what they are implementing. 2> Nobody is saying they sh

1> Yes there is plenty of room to innovate on implementation, but they still want input to the scope of what they are implementing. 2> Nobody is saying they should be product managers, I am just suggesting they want more direct input to the shape of the product itself (not suggesting ALL engineers either) 3> Agreed, and PMs should continue to be good at this, its a core part of their role, understanding the ecosystem