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> driving trips don't involve a monologue You're not thinking when you're driving though. The term is highway hypnosis. When we know what we're doing, we becom

by unabst 10y ago

> driving trips don't involve a monologue You're not thinking when you're driving though. The term is highway hypnosis. When we know what we're doing, we become unconscious and unaware, granting us bandwidth to think of other things. When I drive I think of other things. For the most part, I don't think we're referring to the same things with "thinking". If we were, we'd see we're contradicting a lot less. > definition of computational thinking Right. And disagreeing with this definition (or formulation) is where I started, so no surprise there. I would say the original article deviated from (or may have even been irrelevant with) the formal definition (or maybe not). (edit: What I'm saying is, if you're thinking straight, it is already computational, so there is no need to make the distinction. I still stand by that statement after considering everything thoughtful posted here, by you and everyone else.)

tbrownaw 10y ago
You're not thinking when you're driving though. The term is highway hypnosis. That's a thing to avoid because it's dangerous; it isn't the usual case.
- unabst 10y ago
  That's not the point though. Even just driving is "just doing it". Most driving is autopilot. Awareness is not necessarily "thinking". We don't deliberate/contemplate/philosophize while driving unless we're incompetent. And we can very much decide/simulate/execute/do without much thought. Thought helps, but those things themselves are not thinking. We have our gut, our instincts, our imagination, our intuitions, and our spurs of the moments, all which are used as opposites to "deliberate thought". Considering all computing the brain does as "thinking" undermines all of these differences. It'd be easier if my use of the word was just wrong, but reviewing the definition of "computational thinking", they only refer to the deliberate kind also. If there was a better word than "thinking" for what I'm referring to, I'm sure "computational thinking" would adopt that expression also. At the end of the day we're just nitpicking semantics, and there are better uses of our time.

by unabst 10y ago

tbrownaw 10y ago

You're not thinking when you're driving though. The term is highway hypnosis. That's a thing to avoid because it's dangerous; it isn't the usual case.

unabst 10y ago
That's not the point though. Even just driving is "just doing it". Most driving is autopilot. Awareness is not necessarily "thinking". We don't deliberate/contemplate/philosophize while driving unless we're incompetent. And we can very much decide/simulate/execute/do without much thought. Thought helps, but those things themselves are not thinking. We have our gut, our instincts, our imagination, our intuitions, and our spurs of the moments, all which are used as opposites to "deliberate thought". Considering all computing the brain does as "thinking" undermines all of these differences. It'd be easier if my use of the word was just wrong, but reviewing the definition of "computational thinking", they only refer to the deliberate kind also. If there was a better word than "thinking" for what I'm referring to, I'm sure "computational thinking" would adopt that expression also. At the end of the day we're just nitpicking semantics, and there are better uses of our time.