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TLDR: We tried getting something similar to Heroku up and running but we ended up going with a paid service that starts at 4299$/month.

by xutopia 10y ago

aclimatt 10y ago
That's for Managed Flynn. We're using the open source version, which is free: https://github.com/flynn/flynn https://github.com/flynn/flynn
- newsat13 10y ago
  And nothing for the support offered by the flynn team? I am also curious to find out what is the running cost for maintaining flynn. Is there one dedicated engineer minitoring the infra?
  - Titanous 10y ago
    Our experience at Flynn is that there are a few common scenarios: - Small and side projects run well without supervision. - Existing ops teams can manage Flynn without much additional effort. - Medium sized teams that don't want an internal ops team pay us for Managed Flynn where we take over all ops-related responsibilities.
    - tracker1 10y ago
      For a small-mid sized company with an overworked dev manager, hiring out flynn for the cost of a Jr Systems Administrator sounds pretty reasonable.
  - aclimatt 10y ago
    Yep, the Flynn team helped us out via IRC and were fantastic. Especially as we were still working on getting pre-1.0 running, it was great to work with an engineer directly through the bumps. Obviously they do offer paid support as well, which is great for recurring issues and operational assistance. We do have a dedicated engineer managing / monitoring our infrastructure. It's not a set-it-and-forget-it kind of thing, so if you don't have somebody to manage your infrastructure, the hosted version might be a better choice. The big cost savings win was for all of our /other/ engineers who now don't need to know anything about ops to get their apps running. Previously with Chef, everybody was responsible for writing recipes and setting up environments, but now we have a standard set of buildpacks that work with our apps, and when we need to transfer an app to a client (as we're a dev agency), we can set it up on Heroku and it should "just work".
Titanous 10y ago
Hey, I'm a co-founder of Flynn. Flynn is entirely open source and BSD-licensed (https://github.com/flynn/flynn https://github.com/flynn/flynn). You can run Flynn on any infrastructure without paying us anything. The price you reference is for our Managed Flynn product, where we act as your ops team, operating a Flynn cluster for you and providing hands-on support for your apps and databases in production.
- bduerst 10y ago
  Do you have a comparison chart or something lining Flynn up against Azure/Heroku/Google App Engine somewhere? I know it's probably not as feature-complete as those other PaaS's, but it would be great to get it at a glance.
  - Titanous 10y ago
    The space is too complex to do a chart, as a bunch of details are not directly comparable. Many people who choose Flynn are not directly comparing us to hosted platforms, as they want more control over their infrastructure (where they run it, lock-in avoidance, etc). As far as individual features go, we are closest to Heroku (and maintain buildpack/runtime compatibility). However there are differences including our support for other databases (MySQL and MongoDB in addition to Postgres and Redis) and many other smaller things like HTTP/2 support.

TLDR: We tried getting something similar to Heroku up and running but we ended up going with a paid service that starts at 4299$/month.

by xutopia 10y ago

TLDR: We tried getting something similar to Heroku up and running but we ended up going with a paid service that starts at 4299$/month.

aclimatt 10y ago

That's for Managed Flynn. We're using the open source version, which is free: https://github.com/flynn/flynn https://github.com/flynn/flynn

newsat13 10y ago
And nothing for the support offered by the flynn team? I am also curious to find out what is the running cost for maintaining flynn. Is there one dedicated engineer minitoring the infra?
- Titanous 10y ago
  Our experience at Flynn is that there are a few common scenarios: - Small and side projects run well without supervision. - Existing ops teams can manage Flynn without much additional effort. - Medium sized teams that don't want an internal ops team pay us for Managed Flynn where we take over all ops-related responsibilities.
  - tracker1 10y ago
    For a small-mid sized company with an overworked dev manager, hiring out flynn for the cost of a Jr Systems Administrator sounds pretty reasonable.
- aclimatt 10y ago
  Yep, the Flynn team helped us out via IRC and were fantastic. Especially as we were still working on getting pre-1.0 running, it was great to work with an engineer directly through the bumps. Obviously they do offer paid support as well, which is great for recurring issues and operational assistance. We do have a dedicated engineer managing / monitoring our infrastructure. It's not a set-it-and-forget-it kind of thing, so if you don't have somebody to manage your infrastructure, the hosted version might be a better choice. The big cost savings win was for all of our /other/ engineers who now don't need to know anything about ops to get their apps running. Previously with Chef, everybody was responsible for writing recipes and setting up environments, but now we have a standard set of buildpacks that work with our apps, and when we need to transfer an app to a client (as we're a dev agency), we can set it up on Heroku and it should "just work".

Titanous 10y ago

Hey, I'm a co-founder of Flynn. Flynn is entirely open source and BSD-licensed (https://github.com/flynn/flynn https://github.com/flynn/flynn). You can run Flynn on any infrastructure without paying us anything. The price you reference is for our Managed Flynn product, where we act as your ops team, operating a Flynn cluster for you and providing hands-on support for your apps and databases in production.

bduerst 10y ago
Do you have a comparison chart or something lining Flynn up against Azure/Heroku/Google App Engine somewhere? I know it's probably not as feature-complete as those other PaaS's, but it would be great to get it at a glance.
- Titanous 10y ago
  The space is too complex to do a chart, as a bunch of details are not directly comparable. Many people who choose Flynn are not directly comparing us to hosted platforms, as they want more control over their infrastructure (where they run it, lock-in avoidance, etc). As far as individual features go, we are closest to Heroku (and maintain buildpack/runtime compatibility). However there are differences including our support for other databases (MySQL and MongoDB in addition to Postgres and Redis) and many other smaller things like HTTP/2 support.