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Answer a straight question: was 100% of the increase in crime a self-fulfilling prophecy caused by white flight that would not have happened otherwise? If you
by twblalock 10y ago
Answer a straight question: was 100% of the increase in crime a self-fulfilling prophecy caused by white flight that would not have happened otherwise?
If you answer in the affirmative, you'll need to bring some proof.
This is how I'm addressing your argument about causality. If any of the crime increases happened before white flight, or if the increases would have happened anyway, then you are wrong about causality. The best you can do is to claim that white flight made a pre-existing increase in crime worse. That is not what you have argued up to now.
- tptacek 10y agoYou made a straightforward claim earlier in the thread: that white flight was caused by crime, and not a causative agent for crime. That claim turns out to be straightforward to refute, because it's a basic question that social science researchers have been evaluating since the late 1970s. Your claim was wrong. Since you appear to be unwilling to even address the rebuttal of your argument, let alone concede the point, I'm not interested in the rest of your arguments. This thread is deep enough already.
- twblalock 10y agoIt's pretty telling that you won't give a yes-or-no answer to a simple question that gets to the very heart of your argument.