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From what I've heard, google intentionally screws with timing, who you will be speaking to, and other factors in order to try to understand how you deal with ch
by sfrailsdev 10y ago
From what I've heard, google intentionally screws with timing, who you will be speaking to, and other factors in order to try to understand how you deal with changes in circumstances.
- joesmo 10y agoYeah, I've heard this too. If it's true, it just shows what assholes they are when it comes to respecting people's time. Which I think is the original point of the article which comes in loud and clear: Google will waste your time; don't interview there.
- sfrailsdev 10y agoWhen I was starting out, Doing well in the Google interview process was a nice confidence booster.
- serge2k 10y agoUnfortunately they will just ignore the complaints and move on to the next resume in the pile.
- protomyth 10y agoIf that's true (and I would love to know if it is), then Google should know that is a big no-no in a lot of cultures, and there are much better ways to test for it. Some still hold the broken word to be an indication of people you don't want to deal with, ever.
- gubby 10y agoThis is not the case (I work for Goog).
- sfrailsdev 10y agoAnd you are on a hiring committee?
- gubby 10y agoThe hiring committee meets after all the interviews are conducted, so isn't really relevant here.
- rockdoe 10y agoYou unintentionally screw with the timing? (I had the same happen)
- gubby 10y agoNobody intentionally screws with the timing like was speculated. It's possible individual meetings might be a few minutes late I guess, can't comment on that.
- Morgawr 10y agoThis is blatantly false. Source: I work for Google. Our daily schedule is packed with meetings and we try to be as on time as possible, interviews (which are something that everybody should be doing) work exactly the same, we don't try to screw people over with bad timing just to "test" them. Sometimes it happens that people miss interviews and somebody else has to show up, this is unfortunately a problem and it shouldn't happen but sometimes it does (accidents and unforeseen things happen). It's not done on purpose.
- civilian 10y agoI remember reading an article that this is how they interview for product managers? Not for engineers, but product managers are people who maybe need to deal with more craziness.
- Morgawr 10y agoI admit I am not familiar with the interviewing process for the non-engineering sides of the org, but I'd still find this very unlikely and weird. We are very very strict in our meeting and timing policies as our meeting rooms are usually packed with people all the time so we really need to be in and out at the given time. It's counter-intuitive that somebody would delay a meeting on purpose...
- jpatokal 10y agoI interviewed for product manager at Google. It was tough, but no craziness involved: flew in, had a day of interviews, flew back.
- wpietri 10y agoI know you don't set up the system, so I'm not blaming you here. But this is the problem: > Our daily schedule is packed with meetings and we try to be as on time as possible If Google's goal were to respect the candidate's time, interviewers wouldn't have daily schedules packed with meetings. The less slack in a system, the worse the failures are. That employees try to be "as on time as possible" is a sign that everybody understands the scheduling is unrealistic. This isn't unusual, by the way. Most hiring processes don't optimize for candidate experience. Or even for good hiring decisions. Indeed, if you take a POSIWID view of typical hiring processes, the point is to make interviewers feel powerful and selecting for people people willing to put up with inefficiency and suspicious power dynamics.
- kcorbitt 10y agoA counterexample can't prove that that never happens, but I interviewed with Google this year and every interaction on the phone or in the in-person interviews began within 3 minutes of the agreed-upon time. So I have a hard time believing this is a general policy.