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> So did Paul McCartney and John Lennon. Do you hear this in any of their work? I only hear it in "Rocky Racoon", which is one of my least favorite beatles son

by duaneb 10y ago

> So did Paul McCartney and John Lennon. Do you hear this in any of their work? I only hear it in "Rocky Racoon", which is one of my least favorite beatles songs as a result. I can't say I'm a fan of Stones-style rock and roll. I'd prefer Led Zeppelin; much less caterwauling and more music.

geebee 10y ago
"What goes on", from the British release of Rubber Soul, is pretty country sounding. I like the song, but it certainly isn't one of their more famous, though.
- duaneb 10y ago
  That is a great song.
abakker 10y ago
Well, you hear it in Led Zeppelin, too. While the members were heavily influenced by the blues artists of the time, songs like "gallows pole" and "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" and "Hey hey what can I do?" show that influence. They also have a variety of songs heavily influenced by the Rockabilly genre, which also has a folk-roots influence. "Hot Dog", "boogie with stu", and "Candy Store Rock" all count in that regard. Rock and Roll has key influence from both the folk traditions, and the blues ones. And in many ways, baroque and early music which influenced bluegrass.
throwawayrocker 10y ago
The same Led Zeppelin that borrowed all those American blues and country riffs throughout their career? If you educate yourself on American music from the 20s-50s you'll realize the true extent of the influence on the British music of the 60s and 70s. It's a lot more than Rocky Raccoon but if you're ignorant of country music you're not going to hear the guitar licks, drum patterns and vocal inflections that show up in many of the recordings by the Beatles. There's no shortage of literature on these influences so how about we just leave any additional education on the matter to personal study, eh?
- duaneb 10y ago
  > The same Led Zeppelin that borrowed all those American blues and country riffs throughout their career? I see that easily, it's the folk influence I have a (harder) time with.
  - genericpseudo 10y ago
    Tangerine? Bron-yr-Aur Stomp? Stairway? They had Sandy "Fairport Convention" Denny as a guest singer. Led Zep are absolutely in the English folk tradition – distinct but related to the American scene – as well as the blues one.
pjmorris 10y ago
If you search for the story of how they met, McCartney played Lennon some Little Richard (R&B) and some Gene Vincent (Hillbilly), both US imports. It impressed Lennon and his buds enough that they decided to invite McCartney in to the band. Listen to their earliest records, and look at who they cover, and you'll find more.
2bitencryption 10y ago
All of Rubber Soul. And outside of Rubber Soul, "I've Just Seen a Face" comes to mind. What a brilliant song.
- jonjacky 10y ago
  And closing the circle, it's been covered by many American bluegrass bands: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=i%27ve+just+seen+a+face+bluegrass https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=i%27ve+just+see...
pjmorris 10y ago
Excerpts from the Zep Wikipedia article: "The band's heavy, guitar-driven sound, rooted in blues( and psychedelia on their early albums, has earned them recognition as one of the progenitors of heavy metal, though their unique style drew from a wide variety of influences, including folk music." "The four played together for the first time in a room below a record store on Gerrard Street in London.[17] Page suggested that they attempt "Train Kept A-Rollin'", originally a jump blues song popularised in a rockabilly version by Johnny Burnette, which had been covered by the Yardbirds." A lot of great rock-and-roll has come out of Britain... if you trace how it got there, it comes back to the same people Dylan is talking about (not solely, but the Hillbillies are there). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin
tnecniv 10y ago
Speaking of Led Zeppelin: The Crunge is a James Brown tribute. When the Levee breaks references the American Blues tradition pretty explicitly (I'm going to Chicago). In My Time of Dying is an old gospel tune from Louisana. Dazed and Confused was a cover of an American blues tune, etc. Clapton was a similar story. He's the first to say his biggest inspiration was Robert Johnson. The Beatles had a much stronger US influence in their earlier work than their later work. They had multiple singles that were Chuck Berry covers.
genericpseudo 10y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiffle#Revival_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiffle#Revival_in_the_United_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quarrymen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quarrymen

by duaneb 10y ago

geebee 10y ago

"What goes on", from the British release of Rubber Soul, is pretty country sounding. I like the song, but it certainly isn't one of their more famous, though.

duaneb 10y ago
That is a great song.

abakker 10y ago

Well, you hear it in Led Zeppelin, too. While the members were heavily influenced by the blues artists of the time, songs like "gallows pole" and "Bron-Y-Aur Stomp" and "Hey hey what can I do?" show that influence. They also have a variety of songs heavily influenced by the Rockabilly genre, which also has a folk-roots influence. "Hot Dog", "boogie with stu", and "Candy Store Rock" all count in that regard. Rock and Roll has key influence from both the folk traditions, and the blues ones. And in many ways, baroque and early music which influenced bluegrass.

throwawayrocker 10y ago

The same Led Zeppelin that borrowed all those American blues and country riffs throughout their career? If you educate yourself on American music from the 20s-50s you'll realize the true extent of the influence on the British music of the 60s and 70s. It's a lot more than Rocky Raccoon but if you're ignorant of country music you're not going to hear the guitar licks, drum patterns and vocal inflections that show up in many of the recordings by the Beatles. There's no shortage of literature on these influences so how about we just leave any additional education on the matter to personal study, eh?

duaneb 10y ago
> The same Led Zeppelin that borrowed all those American blues and country riffs throughout their career? I see that easily, it's the folk influence I have a (harder) time with.
- genericpseudo 10y ago
  Tangerine? Bron-yr-Aur Stomp? Stairway? They had Sandy "Fairport Convention" Denny as a guest singer. Led Zep are absolutely in the English folk tradition – distinct but related to the American scene – as well as the blues one.

pjmorris 10y ago

If you search for the story of how they met, McCartney played Lennon some Little Richard (R&B) and some Gene Vincent (Hillbilly), both US imports. It impressed Lennon and his buds enough that they decided to invite McCartney in to the band. Listen to their earliest records, and look at who they cover, and you'll find more.

2bitencryption 10y ago

All of Rubber Soul. And outside of Rubber Soul, "I've Just Seen a Face" comes to mind. What a brilliant song.

jonjacky 10y ago
And closing the circle, it's been covered by many American bluegrass bands: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=i%27ve+just+seen+a+face+bluegrass https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=i%27ve+just+see...

pjmorris 10y ago

Excerpts from the Zep Wikipedia article: "The band's heavy, guitar-driven sound, rooted in blues( and psychedelia on their early albums, has earned them recognition as one of the progenitors of heavy metal, though their unique style drew from a wide variety of influences, including folk music." "The four played together for the first time in a room below a record store on Gerrard Street in London.[17] Page suggested that they attempt "Train Kept A-Rollin'", originally a jump blues song popularised in a rockabilly version by Johnny Burnette, which had been covered by the Yardbirds." A lot of great rock-and-roll has come out of Britain... if you trace how it got there, it comes back to the same people Dylan is talking about (not solely, but the Hillbillies are there). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin

tnecniv 10y ago

Speaking of Led Zeppelin: The Crunge is a James Brown tribute. When the Levee breaks references the American Blues tradition pretty explicitly (I'm going to Chicago). In My Time of Dying is an old gospel tune from Louisana. Dazed and Confused was a cover of an American blues tune, etc. Clapton was a similar story. He's the first to say his biggest inspiration was Robert Johnson. The Beatles had a much stronger US influence in their earlier work than their later work. They had multiple singles that were Chuck Berry covers.

genericpseudo 10y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiffle#Revival_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skiffle#Revival_in_the_United_... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quarrymen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quarrymen