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You should note that you have the luxury to even consider the issue of abortion because you've already been born.

by lucio 10y ago

snovv_crash 10y ago
Wow, that's a pretty dim view of humanity you have there. They were also conceived. Should contraceptives be illegal too? Just because there is a selection bias doesn't mean that the bias results in specifically positive or negative outcome. I could argue that because you were born you are against abortion because you were born too, and my argument would be just as valid. Of course I'm not making that argument, because it is just as silly as the one you are making.
leohutson 10y ago
They are also lucky their parents met, so your point is?
- hueving 10y ago
  Tends to be a less inflammatory 'pro life' way of saying, "it's easy to be undecided when the decision isn't about you being murdered." Or something provocative along those lines.
PhasmaFelis 10y ago
That's so incoherent that I can't even tell which position you're arguing.
- lucio 10y ago
  I'm stating a fact. One important reason why anyone of us is able to have a stance on the issue, is that we've not been aborted. I understand a pro-choice position, it is pragmatical to allow abortions up to the fourth month, but the hard truth is that all the unique "code" required to build any of us was created during mitosis after conception. That particular combination is unique. That particular genetic combination is lost in an abortion. If Bach had not been born, one of his brothers would be the composer?... Same for Einstein?
  - PhasmaFelis 10y ago
    A unique, never-to-be-repeated genetic combination is lost every time two people fail to have sex and conceive a child. Should we encourage everyone to have sex with as many people as possible, to maximize unique genetic occurrences? > If Bach had not been born, one of his brothers would be the composer?... Same for Einstein? What if we had aborted Hitler? Or Stalin? Or John Wayne Gacy? Actions have to be judged based on the information available at the time, not on what might be learned decades later.

You should note that you have the luxury to even consider the issue of abortion because you've already been born.

by lucio 10y ago

You should note that you have the luxury to even consider the issue of abortion because you've already been born.

Wow, that's a pretty dim view of humanity you have there. They were also conceived. Should contraceptives be illegal too? Just because there is a selection bias doesn't mean that the bias results in specifically positive or negative outcome. I could argue that because you were born you are against abortion because you were born too, and my argument would be just as valid. Of course I'm not making that argument, because it is just as silly as the one you are making.

leohutson 10y ago

They are also lucky their parents met, so your point is?

hueving 10y ago
Tends to be a less inflammatory 'pro life' way of saying, "it's easy to be undecided when the decision isn't about you being murdered." Or something provocative along those lines.

PhasmaFelis 10y ago

That's so incoherent that I can't even tell which position you're arguing.

lucio 10y ago
I'm stating a fact. One important reason why anyone of us is able to have a stance on the issue, is that we've not been aborted. I understand a pro-choice position, it is pragmatical to allow abortions up to the fourth month, but the hard truth is that all the unique "code" required to build any of us was created during mitosis after conception. That particular combination is unique. That particular genetic combination is lost in an abortion. If Bach had not been born, one of his brothers would be the composer?... Same for Einstein?
- PhasmaFelis 10y ago
  A unique, never-to-be-repeated genetic combination is lost every time two people fail to have sex and conceive a child. Should we encourage everyone to have sex with as many people as possible, to maximize unique genetic occurrences? > If Bach had not been born, one of his brothers would be the composer?... Same for Einstein? What if we had aborted Hitler? Or Stalin? Or John Wayne Gacy? Actions have to be judged based on the information available at the time, not on what might be learned decades later.