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Creating an iPhone version of my app just got even lower on my todo list.

by clammer 16y ago

rimantas 16y ago
Yes. It's so easy to forget that some 180 000 apps were accepted.
- ZeroGravitas 16y ago
  Apparently there's 447 that just make fart noises.
- clammer 16y ago
  Yeah, but in my case I'm in a grey area like the facebook app developers that Apple just screwed...not to mention the developer's customers.
stanleydrew 16y ago
I think the ranks of those who feel as you do are growing. Let's hope more people develop for Android and the web now.
- DeusExMachina 16y ago
  I think it won't happen, at least for now. The strength of the user experience and the seamless integration of iPhones with the app store is what is luring users and developers. Android can win on Apple Flaws, but it has to become better, in my opinion. Only then it will be able to force Apple out of it restricting decisions. I hope it will happen someday. Unfortunately I don't think it will happen soon.
- chc 16y ago
  Unfortunately, I don't think so, at least not for serious commercial development. Android and the Web both have big drawbacks for producing profitable apps. Apple has a huge line of people with their credit cards out on the App Store and everyone knows it. Android has relatively few users and they are not known to be big spenders in general. The Web has lots of users but very few are likely to ever find your product and unless it fits in a few well-defined categories it's tremendously unlikely they'll be willing to pay for it (and ad-supported is not a reliable business model).
  - warfangle 16y ago
    True, apple has about 25% of the market. But it slipped a little between November and February, while the Android market share more than doubled. It's been a slow starter (it didn't explode out the gate like Apple did), but it's gaining. Much like Chrome. In other news, Blackberry is still the market leader. http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/4/comScore_Reports_February_2010_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_Share http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/4/c...
    - chc 16y ago
      That's subscribers. I was talking about app sales. The two aren't necessarily corelated all that strongly - which is kind of my point. I remember one study recently that estimated Apple was responsible for more than 99% of all mobile app sales: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/apple-responsible-for-994-of-mobile-app-sales-in-2009.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/apple-responsible-...
klaut 16y ago
indeed. i was thinking to invest some time into iPhone app development. but all these recent events have definitely made me change my mind.
jmatt 16y ago
Yeah that can only be viewed as a bad thing for Apple and the App Store. I have no idea how the leaders and decision makers (presumably the same people) at Apple don't see what nearly every other developer I know sees clear as day - it's no longer enviable to write iPhone or iPad apps. It's not even cool anymore thanks to them destroying many great ideas. Apple's App Store is quickly heading the direction of hmmm... Not Microsoft because you can write anything you want for their OSes. Maybe early AOL or late Compuserve had this same feel of a walled garden (their respective portals) and they both slowly and dimly failed while technology passed them by. It'll still take some time but eventually innovators will skip past the app store and at that point there is no recovery.
cabalamat 16y ago
A lot of my friends have moved from Linux to Mac as their primary computing platform over the last few years. I've considered doing the same myself. But now I'm determined that I won't, since I will never do business with someone as unethical and frankly fascistic as Steve Jobs.
- pqs 16y ago
  I moved to Mac OS three years ago and since one year ago I'm back to Linux. And I feel at home.

Creating an iPhone version of my app just got even lower on my todo list.

by clammer 16y ago

Creating an iPhone version of my app just got even lower on my todo list.

rimantas 16y ago

Yes. It's so easy to forget that some 180 000 apps were accepted.

ZeroGravitas 16y ago
Apparently there's 447 that just make fart noises.
clammer 16y ago
Yeah, but in my case I'm in a grey area like the facebook app developers that Apple just screwed...not to mention the developer's customers.

stanleydrew 16y ago

I think the ranks of those who feel as you do are growing. Let's hope more people develop for Android and the web now.

DeusExMachina 16y ago
I think it won't happen, at least for now. The strength of the user experience and the seamless integration of iPhones with the app store is what is luring users and developers. Android can win on Apple Flaws, but it has to become better, in my opinion. Only then it will be able to force Apple out of it restricting decisions. I hope it will happen someday. Unfortunately I don't think it will happen soon.
chc 16y ago
Unfortunately, I don't think so, at least not for serious commercial development. Android and the Web both have big drawbacks for producing profitable apps. Apple has a huge line of people with their credit cards out on the App Store and everyone knows it. Android has relatively few users and they are not known to be big spenders in general. The Web has lots of users but very few are likely to ever find your product and unless it fits in a few well-defined categories it's tremendously unlikely they'll be willing to pay for it (and ad-supported is not a reliable business model).
- warfangle 16y ago
  True, apple has about 25% of the market. But it slipped a little between November and February, while the Android market share more than doubled. It's been a slow starter (it didn't explode out the gate like Apple did), but it's gaining. Much like Chrome. In other news, Blackberry is still the market leader. http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/4/comScore_Reports_February_2010_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_Share http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2010/4/c...
  - chc 16y ago
    That's subscribers. I was talking about app sales. The two aren't necessarily corelated all that strongly - which is kind of my point. I remember one study recently that estimated Apple was responsible for more than 99% of all mobile app sales: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/apple-responsible-for-994-of-mobile-app-sales-in-2009.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/01/apple-responsible-...

klaut 16y ago

indeed. i was thinking to invest some time into iPhone app development. but all these recent events have definitely made me change my mind.

jmatt 16y ago

Yeah that can only be viewed as a bad thing for Apple and the App Store. I have no idea how the leaders and decision makers (presumably the same people) at Apple don't see what nearly every other developer I know sees clear as day - it's no longer enviable to write iPhone or iPad apps. It's not even cool anymore thanks to them destroying many great ideas. Apple's App Store is quickly heading the direction of hmmm... Not Microsoft because you can write anything you want for their OSes. Maybe early AOL or late Compuserve had this same feel of a walled garden (their respective portals) and they both slowly and dimly failed while technology passed them by. It'll still take some time but eventually innovators will skip past the app store and at that point there is no recovery.

cabalamat 16y ago

A lot of my friends have moved from Linux to Mac as their primary computing platform over the last few years. I've considered doing the same myself. But now I'm determined that I won't, since I will never do business with someone as unethical and frankly fascistic as Steve Jobs.

pqs 16y ago
I moved to Mac OS three years ago and since one year ago I'm back to Linux. And I feel at home.