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>>ripping apart the lives of employees and customers You don't think that's a teency bit mellowdramatic? That description seems perfect for Bernie Madoff, Enr

>>ripping apart the lives of employees and customers You don't think that's a teency bit mellowdramatic? That description seems perfect for Bernie Madoff, Enron, et al.

mey 10y ago
Listen to the episode, it actually isn't melodramatic. They were hiring young bankers, trading on their connections until they ran dry, then dumping them, for a new batch. That's just the start and the environment goes down from there.
camperman 10y ago
No, it's accurate. Having a bank steal your money when you're a customer is devastating. Having a bank fire and blacklist you because you were an ethical employee is also devastating. The only difference with Madoff and Enron is the scale.
Smerity 10y ago
The entire situation is downright despicable. If you listen to the podcast, they made employees stay in an active crime scene (bank robbery) where the thief defecated all over the floor to make phone calls to try to open new accounts. Many employees (many with similar wages to Ashley) left due to health reasons caused due to the stress of the job. They were reduced to calling friends and relatives begging to create new accounts so they could meet quota. Ashley notes throwing up under her desk as fairly standard practice. If they didn't reach quota, they would be fired and blacklisted like Ashley was - though Ashley was fired for acting morally. Customers may not be aware of the impact that such products had on their credit ratings. Given credit ratings are incredibly complex to "fix" and you may only become aware of them when trying to make a large next step in life (loan for a house) ... And worst, the pensioner, who lived on minimal savings and who is not well equipped to sort out fraudulently opened accounts, was overdraft and unable to fix the situation himself. Who knows how many pensioners were sucked dry, what struggles they then faced on an empty bank account, unaware of what might even be the problem.

>>ripping apart the lives of employees and customers You don't think that's a teency bit mellowdramatic? That description seems perfect for Bernie Madoff, Enron, et al.

mey 10y ago

Listen to the episode, it actually isn't melodramatic. They were hiring young bankers, trading on their connections until they ran dry, then dumping them, for a new batch. That's just the start and the environment goes down from there.

camperman 10y ago

No, it's accurate. Having a bank steal your money when you're a customer is devastating. Having a bank fire and blacklist you because you were an ethical employee is also devastating. The only difference with Madoff and Enron is the scale.

Smerity 10y ago

The entire situation is downright despicable. If you listen to the podcast, they made employees stay in an active crime scene (bank robbery) where the thief defecated all over the floor to make phone calls to try to open new accounts. Many employees (many with similar wages to Ashley) left due to health reasons caused due to the stress of the job. They were reduced to calling friends and relatives begging to create new accounts so they could meet quota. Ashley notes throwing up under her desk as fairly standard practice. If they didn't reach quota, they would be fired and blacklisted like Ashley was - though Ashley was fired for acting morally. Customers may not be aware of the impact that such products had on their credit ratings. Given credit ratings are incredibly complex to "fix" and you may only become aware of them when trying to make a large next step in life (loan for a house) ... And worst, the pensioner, who lived on minimal savings and who is not well equipped to sort out fraudulently opened accounts, was overdraft and unable to fix the situation himself. Who knows how many pensioners were sucked dry, what struggles they then faced on an empty bank account, unaware of what might even be the problem.