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One of the examples given is a block puzzle (reorder 8 pieces in a 3x3 grid back into order) Has this been a problem for AI and CNN's?
by bluetwo 10y ago
One of the examples given is a block puzzle (reorder 8 pieces in a 3x3 grid back into order)
Has this been a problem for AI and CNN's?
- cscurmudgeon 10y agoThat problem was solved by a non learning AI system decades ago. Current theorem provers (a related field of AI) solve problems like this in fractions of a second. The progress in the article is getting a learning system to do so, eventually leading us to handle unsolved problems.
- bluetwo 10y agoInteresting. I have an AI agent that can solve these types of problems. What kinds of other unsolved problems are out there? I'm always looking for something interesting.
- cscurmudgeon 10y agoLook up past proceedings in IJCAI or AAAI conferences. And look at logic-based papers.
- taneq 10y agoThis seems like a bit of an unfair comparison. The 'decades ago' solution was a system, built by humans, that can solve this problem (and very closely related ones), whereas this solution is a system, built by humans, that can design a system to solve the problem.
- cscurmudgeon 10y agoNo, it is not an unfair comparison. Those systems were not hand crafted. They were implemented via first-order logic theorem provers. FOL theorem proving is Turing complete and extremely expressive. This not a me vs you camp. Just a scientific statement.
- bluetwo 10y agoI agree with the point taniq makes in that those easier systems did in fact require a lot of hand crafting, even if parts were automated. I find it interesting the points at which the usefulness of these approaches plateaus. I am interested a lot in general game playing, and there is a common problem that while the general systems tend to make interesting progress, it is the systems finely crafted to the game that win competitions. What I am really, REALLY interested in is what commercial application exist for these types of technologies. Solving a puzzle slightly better than a different tool is fun, but solving a valuable business problem is where the money is at.