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The Bitbucket UI is a mess. * It takes over your native browsers find feature. * It's javascript heavy and has multiple panes that scroll, collapse, and expan

by ronnier 10y ago

The Bitbucket UI is a mess. * It takes over your native browsers find feature. * It's javascript heavy and has multiple panes that scroll, collapse, and expand. * Viewing diffs requires you to click each file that changed (unlike every other diff/code browser I've used where it has one long page with all the changes)

tokenizerrr 10y ago
> * Viewing diffs requires you to click each file that changed (unlike every other diff/code browser I've used where it has one long page with all the changes) This is not my experience. Picking a random project I see a listing of all changes in all files: https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/pull-requests/3/bump-dev-dependencies/diff https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/pull-requests/3... That's for a pull request, this is for a branch: https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/branch/bump_dev_dependencies#diff https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/branch/bump_dev...
- ronnier 10y ago
  I'm using the "enterprise" version, not the public version. Maybe there's a difference. And yeah, that view you posted is a lot easier to read.
  - Karunamon 10y ago
    Can confirm. The enterprise (aka Bitbucket Server) version gives you a two pane layout, with files on the left and changes to those files on the right.
    - ngoldbaum 10y ago
      Bitbucket Server (formerly Stash) is a completely different codebase from Bitbucket Cloud. They share zero code. One is written in Java, the other in Python. It's a constant source of confusion. The naming is because of a terrible marketing decision. Atlassian marketing does all kinds of weird things, like advertising Bitbucket as only supporting git despite also supporting mercurial.
      - nikanj 10y ago
        Almost as bad as Skype vs Skype for Business
  - brazzledazzle 10y ago
    Might want to check and see how far behind you are in upgrades. Even though the on-prem version will never have feature parity (new features hit cloud first) it could be that whoever runs your instance hasn't upgraded in a little while.
    - iamaelephant 10y ago
      Feature parity is not really a goal of these products - they are totally separate teams, technologies and languages. If one team develops something awesome then of course the other will try to reimplement, but it's not really the case that features "hit cloud first".
      - brazzledazzle 10y ago
        You're saying the BitBucket cloud and server teams are using totally separate technologies and languages? That's not the impression I've gotten at all at every atlassian conference I've been to. Seems wasteful but nothing surprises me anymore.
flavor8 10y ago
I actually prefer bitbucket cloud to github. The pull request workflow in particular is a lot cleaner. Currently ditching both for gitlab tho.
- sytse 10y ago
  Glad to hear you're switching to GitLab. What made you switch? And how can we maybe improve our pull/merge request workflow?
SEJeff 10y ago
And this is why github won...
mindsocket 10y ago
I'm a Bitbucket Product Manager. Thanks for the feedback! This is an area we plan to improve in the Server offering. In particular we're actively looking at ways to make diff nav and find much better.
- ppoint 10y ago
  Are you planning on adding code search feature any time soon (in the cloud, that is)?
  - Gitittogether 10y ago
    Bitbucket PM here, We are currently working on code search for Bitbucket cloud, you can follow our progress here: https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/2874/ability-to-search-source-code-bb-39 https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/2874/ability-to-sea...
iamaelephant 10y ago
It sounds like you're talking about Bitbucket Server. This article is about Bitbucket Cloud. Some people (myself included) much prefer the Cloud product, some people love the server product - and often they have these opinions for the same reason. File-by-file diff is a good example of this :) Disclosure, I work for Atlassian, but not on either of these products.

by ronnier 10y ago

tokenizerrr 10y ago

> * Viewing diffs requires you to click each file that changed (unlike every other diff/code browser I've used where it has one long page with all the changes) This is not my experience. Picking a random project I see a listing of all changes in all files: https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/pull-requests/3/bump-dev-dependencies/diff https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/pull-requests/3... That's for a pull request, this is for a branch: https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/branch/bump_dev_dependencies#diff https://bitbucket.org/atlassianlabs/asap-cli/branch/bump_dev...

ronnier 10y ago
I'm using the "enterprise" version, not the public version. Maybe there's a difference. And yeah, that view you posted is a lot easier to read.
- Karunamon 10y ago
  Can confirm. The enterprise (aka Bitbucket Server) version gives you a two pane layout, with files on the left and changes to those files on the right.
  - ngoldbaum 10y ago
    Bitbucket Server (formerly Stash) is a completely different codebase from Bitbucket Cloud. They share zero code. One is written in Java, the other in Python. It's a constant source of confusion. The naming is because of a terrible marketing decision. Atlassian marketing does all kinds of weird things, like advertising Bitbucket as only supporting git despite also supporting mercurial.
    - nikanj 10y ago
      Almost as bad as Skype vs Skype for Business
- brazzledazzle 10y ago
  Might want to check and see how far behind you are in upgrades. Even though the on-prem version will never have feature parity (new features hit cloud first) it could be that whoever runs your instance hasn't upgraded in a little while.
  - iamaelephant 10y ago
    Feature parity is not really a goal of these products - they are totally separate teams, technologies and languages. If one team develops something awesome then of course the other will try to reimplement, but it's not really the case that features "hit cloud first".
    - brazzledazzle 10y ago
      You're saying the BitBucket cloud and server teams are using totally separate technologies and languages? That's not the impression I've gotten at all at every atlassian conference I've been to. Seems wasteful but nothing surprises me anymore.

flavor8 10y ago

I actually prefer bitbucket cloud to github. The pull request workflow in particular is a lot cleaner. Currently ditching both for gitlab tho.

sytse 10y ago
Glad to hear you're switching to GitLab. What made you switch? And how can we maybe improve our pull/merge request workflow?

SEJeff 10y ago

And this is why github won...

mindsocket 10y ago

I'm a Bitbucket Product Manager. Thanks for the feedback! This is an area we plan to improve in the Server offering. In particular we're actively looking at ways to make diff nav and find much better.

ppoint 10y ago
Are you planning on adding code search feature any time soon (in the cloud, that is)?
- Gitittogether 10y ago
  Bitbucket PM here, We are currently working on code search for Bitbucket cloud, you can follow our progress here: https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/2874/ability-to-search-source-code-bb-39 https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/2874/ability-to-sea...

iamaelephant 10y ago

It sounds like you're talking about Bitbucket Server. This article is about Bitbucket Cloud. Some people (myself included) much prefer the Cloud product, some people love the server product - and often they have these opinions for the same reason. File-by-file diff is a good example of this :) Disclosure, I work for Atlassian, but not on either of these products.