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>You need to be pretty dumb to buy a Mac now. My retina macbook 13" is three years old, still as snappy as I first got it, no issues at all. Everything still w

>You need to be pretty dumb to buy a Mac now. My retina macbook 13" is three years old, still as snappy as I first got it, no issues at all. Everything still works completely fine and it feels solid. The battery still holds 90% of its original charge. That's why I'll get a macbook again, because if I hadn't I'd have gone through at least 2 Windows laptops between then and now. These are just built way better. Other examples of laptops that compete on build quality, weight, and size are just as expensive. But I do agree that they need to pull a miracle to get the mac lineup out of the sorry state it is in right now. I guess they're good enough for most people, and looking around at my university library I'm sitting in right now I can see many people with new macbooks and macbook pros. The hard part is for Apple to do something _interesting_ without making it _worse_...

LyndsySimon 10y ago
I recently picked up a very inexpensive Windows 10 convertible laptop, and have been VERY impressed with it. IMO in the future the Microsoft Surface Pro line is going to have a nice little niche, and I hope Apple jumps on it before Microsoft completely owns it.
- detaro 10y ago
  > a very inexpensive Windows 10 convertible laptop which one?
  - LyndsySimon 10y ago
    A Lenovo Flex 3; I found it on Best Buy's "open box" table and paid ~$150 for it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WE7IBE/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WE7IBE/
vetinari 10y ago
I actually like the slow-down in the laptop development. It means that the machines are good enough to use until they physically break. No need to change them every two years just to keep up with software updates.
Taylor_OD 10y ago
"Windows laptop" "built way better" You are grouping together every brand of laptop that runs windows vs the core product line of apple. Do a little research and find a "windows laptop" that is highly reviewed and built to last.
- alexhawdon 10y ago
  Whenever I've seen high-end Windows laptops with a build quality to rival Apple's, they cost the same or more and have poorer resale value.
mcphage 10y ago
> But I do agree that they need to pull a miracle to get the mac lineup out of the sorry state it is in right now. I guess they're good enough for most people I think Apple's problem, though, is that Chromebooks are also good enough for most people, and cost a ton less. Maybe when they switch the Macbook to ARM they'll be able to drop the price considerably?

LyndsySimon 10y ago

I recently picked up a very inexpensive Windows 10 convertible laptop, and have been VERY impressed with it. IMO in the future the Microsoft Surface Pro line is going to have a nice little niche, and I hope Apple jumps on it before Microsoft completely owns it.

detaro 10y ago
> a very inexpensive Windows 10 convertible laptop which one?
- LyndsySimon 10y ago
  A Lenovo Flex 3; I found it on Best Buy's "open box" table and paid ~$150 for it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WE7IBE/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018WE7IBE/

vetinari 10y ago

I actually like the slow-down in the laptop development. It means that the machines are good enough to use until they physically break. No need to change them every two years just to keep up with software updates.

Taylor_OD 10y ago

"Windows laptop" "built way better" You are grouping together every brand of laptop that runs windows vs the core product line of apple. Do a little research and find a "windows laptop" that is highly reviewed and built to last.

alexhawdon 10y ago
Whenever I've seen high-end Windows laptops with a build quality to rival Apple's, they cost the same or more and have poorer resale value.

mcphage 10y ago

> But I do agree that they need to pull a miracle to get the mac lineup out of the sorry state it is in right now. I guess they're good enough for most people I think Apple's problem, though, is that Chromebooks are also good enough for most people, and cost a ton less. Maybe when they switch the Macbook to ARM they'll be able to drop the price considerably?