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So it Serverless Framework that seems to be considerably tied to AWS servers. EDIT. Only writing this because its in fact possible to imagine serverLESS framew

So it Serverless Framework that seems to be considerably tied to AWS servers. EDIT. Only writing this because its in fact possible to imagine serverLESS framework these days (web workers, p2p etc), but this seems to be just about more volatile servers.

mxuribe 10y ago
A small point, but they look to at least consider other non-AWS providers (e.g. Azure) per their note here: https://serverless.com/framework/docs/guide/installing-serverless/#provider-account-setup https://serverless.com/framework/docs/guide/installing-serve...
dfederschmidt 10y ago
There are pull-requests open which enable the framework to be used with Azure or IBM BlueMix OpenWhisk
- cphoover 10y ago
  Hmm if I recall they had logos of azure, ibm whisk, and google cloud fns in their project. Seems those logos have recently been removed. Is this indicative of the future of this project, leaning towards AWS lock-in?
  - matlock 10y ago
    Absolutely not. We definitely want to support all of those providers, but as those integrations aren't in the Framework yet we decided to remove the logos until we actually support them. Not just because users want those, but for us its important to become more provider independent as we don't otherwise have a defensible product. So multi-provider is definitely coming and we're in constant contact with many providers.
brudgers 10y ago
'Serverless' as currently jargoned is used to connote that the developer does not have to think about servers (or VM's or containers) directly. The 'serverless' buzzword does not mean that there are not servers somewhere doing useful work.
- matlock 10y ago
  Exactly, added a small piece of text to the README about this today: https://github.com/serverless/serverless/#why-serverless https://github.com/serverless/serverless/#why-serverless
- dolzenko 10y ago
  Sorry, can you elaborate in which way this is "does not have to think about servers"? Because almost the first thing on their tutorial is some messing around with AWS.
  - wyaeld 10y ago
    Serverless is really just an a community term for 'function as a service'. There are servers... you just upload discrete bits of code to the platform which executes them on demand.

mxuribe 10y ago

A small point, but they look to at least consider other non-AWS providers (e.g. Azure) per their note here: https://serverless.com/framework/docs/guide/installing-serverless/#provider-account-setup https://serverless.com/framework/docs/guide/installing-serve...

dfederschmidt 10y ago

There are pull-requests open which enable the framework to be used with Azure or IBM BlueMix OpenWhisk

cphoover 10y ago
Hmm if I recall they had logos of azure, ibm whisk, and google cloud fns in their project. Seems those logos have recently been removed. Is this indicative of the future of this project, leaning towards AWS lock-in?
- matlock 10y ago
  Absolutely not. We definitely want to support all of those providers, but as those integrations aren't in the Framework yet we decided to remove the logos until we actually support them. Not just because users want those, but for us its important to become more provider independent as we don't otherwise have a defensible product. So multi-provider is definitely coming and we're in constant contact with many providers.

brudgers 10y ago

'Serverless' as currently jargoned is used to connote that the developer does not have to think about servers (or VM's or containers) directly. The 'serverless' buzzword does not mean that there are not servers somewhere doing useful work.

matlock 10y ago
Exactly, added a small piece of text to the README about this today: https://github.com/serverless/serverless/#why-serverless https://github.com/serverless/serverless/#why-serverless
dolzenko 10y ago
Sorry, can you elaborate in which way this is "does not have to think about servers"? Because almost the first thing on their tutorial is some messing around with AWS.
- wyaeld 10y ago
  Serverless is really just an a community term for 'function as a service'. There are servers... you just upload discrete bits of code to the platform which executes them on demand.