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I built a seaside app on Squeak last year and ported it to Pharo in October. So far I've liked Seaside a lot better than Rails, and Pharo a lot better than Squ

I built a seaside app on Squeak last year and ported it to Pharo in October. So far I've liked Seaside a lot better than Rails, and Pharo a lot better than Squeak. Pharo is a nice, clean smalltalk with a professional UI useful for the developer. We've even started selling the app. on a very small scale and have had great feedback on the flexibility we gained by using a Smalltalk, Seaside, and an object database

icey 16y ago
Would you mind sharing a link to the app? Many of us haven't had a chance to see many Seaside apps out in the wild. I think DabbleDB and Auctomatic are Seaside apps, but other than that I can't think of any.
- futuremint 16y ago
  I would like to, unfortunately it isn't a public application, and also contains medical information. Maybe one day I'll setup a demo account on a stand-alone server with fake data... but that is a really low priority (in fact, I just now came up with that, so its at the bottom of the list :)
- gnaritas 16y ago
  Go to kayak.com, search for a hotel somewhere, find a rate from Reserve Travel and visit it; that's a seaside app.
mark_l_watson 16y ago
Which ORM (or pure object database) did you use?
- futuremint 16y ago
  Its called Magma. Its implemented in Squeak Smalltalk and runs fine on Pharo and is open source. So far I've enjoyed using it, but I haven't had to scale it yet. It does support replication with automatic fail-over though. Edit: Some basic docs: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2665 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2665 The rest of the docs are just "read the code/comments" which actually works in Smalltalk. I've found "read the code" never works well in any other language due to poor code navigation in file-based PLs Edit Edit: Sorry, didn't read your comment entirely. Its a pure OO database. These are pretty common in Smalltalk as it has good built-in serialization/marshaling routines, so most OO dbs are just a layer on top of the built-in stuff.

icey 16y ago

Would you mind sharing a link to the app? Many of us haven't had a chance to see many Seaside apps out in the wild. I think DabbleDB and Auctomatic are Seaside apps, but other than that I can't think of any.

futuremint 16y ago
I would like to, unfortunately it isn't a public application, and also contains medical information. Maybe one day I'll setup a demo account on a stand-alone server with fake data... but that is a really low priority (in fact, I just now came up with that, so its at the bottom of the list :)
gnaritas 16y ago
Go to kayak.com, search for a hotel somewhere, find a rate from Reserve Travel and visit it; that's a seaside app.

mark_l_watson 16y ago

Which ORM (or pure object database) did you use?

futuremint 16y ago
Its called Magma. Its implemented in Squeak Smalltalk and runs fine on Pharo and is open source. So far I've enjoyed using it, but I haven't had to scale it yet. It does support replication with automatic fail-over though. Edit: Some basic docs: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2665 http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2665 The rest of the docs are just "read the code/comments" which actually works in Smalltalk. I've found "read the code" never works well in any other language due to poor code navigation in file-based PLs Edit Edit: Sorry, didn't read your comment entirely. Its a pure OO database. These are pretty common in Smalltalk as it has good built-in serialization/marshaling routines, so most OO dbs are just a layer on top of the built-in stuff.