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He is parroting a year old clickbait headline (https://nolanlawson.com/2015/06/30/safari-is-the-new-ie/ https://nolanlawson.com/2015/06/30/safari-is-the-new-ie/

by arkx 10y ago

He is parroting a year old clickbait headline (https://nolanlawson.com/2015/06/30/safari-is-the-new-ie/ https://nolanlawson.com/2015/06/30/safari-is-the-new-ie/) where the main gripes were that - Apple didn't attend EdgeConf 2015 - https://webkit.org/blog/ https://webkit.org/blog/ was not updated often enough - Safari 9 had a seriously buggy IndexedDB (fixed in Safari 10)

olavgg 10y ago
I would rather refer to this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12051267 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12051267 I'm not the only one who think Safari is a joke compared to the competition. While IE6 was much much worse than what Safari is today, I feel like history is repeating itself again. And ES6 support is irrelevant when the main goal is to make sure websites renders and behave correctly, which is more painful for Safari than the other browsers. I still have flexbox issues on Safari https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041
- coldtea 10y ago
  >I'm not the only one who think Safari is a joke compared to the competition. How does that opinion survive reality, e.g. Safari being the first browser to reach 100% ES6 compliance? >I still have flexbox issues on Safari https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041* https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041* So? All browsers still have Flexbox issues. Here are Chrome's: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=component%3ABlink%3ELayout%3EFlexbox+&colspec=ID+Pri+M+Stars+ReleaseBlock+Component+Status+Owner+Summary+OS+Modified&x=m&y=releaseblock&cells=ids https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=com...
  - woogley 10y ago
    ES6 has very little to do with keeping up with Web APIs. See https://platform-status.mozilla.org/ https://platform-status.mozilla.org/ Notably Fetch API and WebRTC for my use-cases.
dumbmatter 10y ago
IndexedDB is actually not fixed in Safari 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/545ylm/psa_indexeddb_on_safari_10_is_still_shitty/ https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/545ylm/psa_inde... Hopefully they'll figure it out eventually!

by arkx 10y ago

olavgg 10y ago

I would rather refer to this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12051267 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12051267 I'm not the only one who think Safari is a joke compared to the competition. While IE6 was much much worse than what Safari is today, I feel like history is repeating itself again. And ES6 support is irrelevant when the main goal is to make sure websites renders and behave correctly, which is more painful for Safari than the other browsers. I still have flexbox issues on Safari https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041

coldtea 10y ago
>I'm not the only one who think Safari is a joke compared to the competition. How does that opinion survive reality, e.g. Safari being the first browser to reach 100% ES6 compliance? >I still have flexbox issues on Safari https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041* https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136041* So? All browsers still have Flexbox issues. Here are Chrome's: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=component%3ABlink%3ELayout%3EFlexbox+&colspec=ID+Pri+M+Stars+ReleaseBlock+Component+Status+Owner+Summary+OS+Modified&x=m&y=releaseblock&cells=ids https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?can=2&q=com...
- woogley 10y ago
  ES6 has very little to do with keeping up with Web APIs. See https://platform-status.mozilla.org/ https://platform-status.mozilla.org/ Notably Fetch API and WebRTC for my use-cases.

dumbmatter 10y ago

IndexedDB is actually not fixed in Safari 10: https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/545ylm/psa_indexeddb_on_safari_10_is_still_shitty/ https://www.reddit.com/r/javascript/comments/545ylm/psa_inde... Hopefully they'll figure it out eventually!