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For me "all the Unix goodness" is a proper package manager, an environment I can modify as much as I want and nowadays too an environment that doesn't have year
by pimeys 10y ago
For me "all the Unix goodness" is a proper package manager, an environment I can modify as much as I want and nowadays too an environment that doesn't have yearly big updates, but a rolling release.
My desktop has stayed exactly the same[0] for almost seven years already. My configs follow me from job to job and from computer to computer. I don't want or need changes, just an editor and a proper *nix kind of operating system and no changes ever how things look or work.
[0] http://i.imgur.com/aMHU8vu.png http://i.imgur.com/aMHU8vu.png
- prewett 10y ago> rolling release That pretty much limits you to Debian unstable... Or Windows, if forcibly upgrading counts as "rolling." But wouldn't a rolling release be the exact opposite of what you'd want if you want no changes, ever? And if that's the case, just don't upgrade macOS until Xcode forces you to, that usually gives you a few years. I stayed on Snow Leopard for years until Apple put a gun to my head, but Mavericks and Yosemite gave me no problems; everything worked just like it did before. (I still miss Snow Leopard, though...)
- pritambaral 10y agoDebian Unstable isn't the only rolling release distro. Another popular one I can think of Arch Linux. Typically, changes in rolling releases are easier to deal with. At any time, the change is smaller, so you don't have to be overwhelmed by a large number of changes all over the place, as is sometimes the case with versioned releases; and the changes are fresher, so your inputs to the developers who made the change are easier to apply.
- pimeys 10y agoExactly. And when your installation is quite minimal, there's a very small change the updates will mess anything up. My arch installation has been running without problems for years because I don't have any massive desktop environments installed and all the development services I need are launched through docker.
- pjmlp 10y agoDo you want a Sun-3?
- q3k 10y agoA modern version of a Sun-3 with up-to-date hardware? Yes, please.
- pjmlp 10y agoThis http://i.imgur.com/aMHU8vu.png http://i.imgur.com/aMHU8vu.png doesn't need a modern version. Hence my remark, the original workstation where twm was created is good enough.
- pimeys 10y agoIf I get enough CPU power, a proper monitor setup with digital output, lots of RAM and modern m.2 SSD, I'm all in!
- pimeys 10y agoAnd if I'm not using any CPU for my window manager, why do you think I don't need any for other stuff. I need to compile pretty big rust/clojure/scala projects daily...
- pjmlp 10y agoWhich just proves my remarks about UNIX culture vs desktop culture. aka CLI & daemons vs UI and UX.