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> I hear too many people claiming "I have so much experience and accomplishments that I simply can't fit them all in under four pages". The problem there is jus

> I hear too many people claiming "I have so much experience and accomplishments that I simply can't fit them all in under four pages". The problem there is just an inability to assess what is the most impressive or relevant experience. As someone who recently did some job hunting I will tell you that while I agree on an idealism level with your comment it's just simply not true in practice. I had many, many companies outright reject my truncated resume even though it provided an outline of years of experience and some top accomplishments simply because it didn't include enough of the buzzwords they were looking for. Resubmitting with my longer, 5 page resume (which I absolutely hate doing)? Accepted. Every time. I will say, however, that if you can apply directly to a person via email (the "Who's Hiring" HN posts are perfect for this, typically) then the shorter resume will work just fine.

eterm 10y ago
For CVs for monster/linked in I have a buzzword bullet list where not everything even gets it's own bullet so it doesn't take up much space. So as a dev one ends up with bullets like (exaggerated here for effect): * C# / .Net (ASP.Net webforms, MVC, WCF, Entity framework) * SQL ( T-SQL, stored procedures, sql-server management) * Python (Django, Flask, south, numpy, scipy) * Javascript (jQuery, ES5, ES2016, webpack, bower, npm) * Front-end frameworks (angular, react, knockout) * Unit testing (mocha, jasmine, chai, nunit, xunit, junit) * sourcesafe, bamboo, trello, docker Yes, there's a danger it can look a bit redundant but it's mostly just there for the box ticking buzzword finding recruiters and prospective employers should understand that too and really be reading the other parts to try to get a better picture of your depth of those and the relevance at your more recent roles.
- funkdified 10y ago
  > box ticking buzzword finding recruiters Sums it up well
fecak 10y ago
The 'in practice' part might have some non-human readers involved, but even an ATS scoring a resume isn't likely searching for a huge number of buzzwords that couldn't be contained in the average skills section - a list of maybe 3-4 lines of an entire page. I definitely agree on the benefit of sending a short resume direct to a human like those on a "Who's Hiring" post, but I don't think a human reader went through your entire 5 pages, and I'm pretty sure you could have achieved the same positive result with 1-2 pages if optimized properly. Maybe not though.
- BinaryIdiot 10y ago
  > I don't think a human reader went through your entire 5 pages, and I'm pretty sure you could have achieved the same positive result with 1-2 pages if optimized properly. Maybe not though. Possibly. I didn't take a ton of time testing different scenarios. And yeah most of the ones that rejected me were within minutes even applying late at night so I assumed an automated system. I don't know if I've ever read my own 5 page resume all in one sitting, heh. I use it as more of a career / professional catalog of just about everything so I can pick and choose when I update / tweak my truncated resume depending on the employer.

eterm 10y ago

For CVs for monster/linked in I have a buzzword bullet list where not everything even gets it's own bullet so it doesn't take up much space. So as a dev one ends up with bullets like (exaggerated here for effect): * C# / .Net (ASP.Net webforms, MVC, WCF, Entity framework) * SQL ( T-SQL, stored procedures, sql-server management) * Python (Django, Flask, south, numpy, scipy) * Javascript (jQuery, ES5, ES2016, webpack, bower, npm) * Front-end frameworks (angular, react, knockout) * Unit testing (mocha, jasmine, chai, nunit, xunit, junit) * sourcesafe, bamboo, trello, docker Yes, there's a danger it can look a bit redundant but it's mostly just there for the box ticking buzzword finding recruiters and prospective employers should understand that too and really be reading the other parts to try to get a better picture of your depth of those and the relevance at your more recent roles.

funkdified 10y ago
> box ticking buzzword finding recruiters Sums it up well

fecak 10y ago

The 'in practice' part might have some non-human readers involved, but even an ATS scoring a resume isn't likely searching for a huge number of buzzwords that couldn't be contained in the average skills section - a list of maybe 3-4 lines of an entire page. I definitely agree on the benefit of sending a short resume direct to a human like those on a "Who's Hiring" post, but I don't think a human reader went through your entire 5 pages, and I'm pretty sure you could have achieved the same positive result with 1-2 pages if optimized properly. Maybe not though.

BinaryIdiot 10y ago
> I don't think a human reader went through your entire 5 pages, and I'm pretty sure you could have achieved the same positive result with 1-2 pages if optimized properly. Maybe not though. Possibly. I didn't take a ton of time testing different scenarios. And yeah most of the ones that rejected me were within minutes even applying late at night so I assumed an automated system. I don't know if I've ever read my own 5 page resume all in one sitting, heh. I use it as more of a career / professional catalog of just about everything so I can pick and choose when I update / tweak my truncated resume depending on the employer.