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I don't think favoritism is responsible for all of men's achievements or actions? I don't see how that's even relevant? You were suggesting in the top comment

by bbctol 10y ago

I don't think favoritism is responsible for all of men's achievements or actions? I don't see how that's even relevant? You were suggesting in the top comment that women are being given jobs because they are women (rather than men), and that that is unjust. I don't see the difference between that statement and the idea that women are "taking" (i.e., unjustly acquiring) jobs (which would otherwise have been men's.)

mhuffman 10y ago
> You were suggesting in the top comment that women are being given jobs because they are women I did not. However, since you bring it up, women statistically can not move up the ranks faster than men, right? There are about 50/50 men/women in the country. They are the same in every way but genitals. So about half of those rising through the ranks should be men and about half women. Right? I mean this is literally the argument that sexism explains our current workforce distribution, so I presume the argument holds the other way around? I am suggesting that "we should hire more women" is every bit as sexist as "we should hire more men". If you want to get rid of all -isms, why not do blind hires based on resume/testing (weighted some way)?
- bbctol 10y ago
  So you have a problem with saying "we should hire more women," but you don't have a problem with women being given jobs because they are women? I am literally just confused. Do you think women are being given jobs that should have gone to men in a fair world or not?
  - mhuffman 10y ago
    > I am literally just confused Yes you are. You have completely confused everything I have written, even though I thought it was in plain English. > Do you think women are being given jobs that should have gone to men in a fair world or not? I think people should hire blindly using blind job tests and weighted experience/education. That would get rid of all "-isms". I imagine that people would still find something to bitch about, though.
    - bbctol 10y ago
      Do you think that women are taking men's jobs?

by bbctol 10y ago

mhuffman 10y ago

> You were suggesting in the top comment that women are being given jobs because they are women I did not. However, since you bring it up, women statistically can not move up the ranks faster than men, right? There are about 50/50 men/women in the country. They are the same in every way but genitals. So about half of those rising through the ranks should be men and about half women. Right? I mean this is literally the argument that sexism explains our current workforce distribution, so I presume the argument holds the other way around? I am suggesting that "we should hire more women" is every bit as sexist as "we should hire more men". If you want to get rid of all -isms, why not do blind hires based on resume/testing (weighted some way)?

bbctol 10y ago
So you have a problem with saying "we should hire more women," but you don't have a problem with women being given jobs because they are women? I am literally just confused. Do you think women are being given jobs that should have gone to men in a fair world or not?
- mhuffman 10y ago
  > I am literally just confused Yes you are. You have completely confused everything I have written, even though I thought it was in plain English. > Do you think women are being given jobs that should have gone to men in a fair world or not? I think people should hire blindly using blind job tests and weighted experience/education. That would get rid of all "-isms". I imagine that people would still find something to bitch about, though.
  - bbctol 10y ago
    Do you think that women are taking men's jobs?