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Fedora is the "cutting edge" and it's expected to have more churn than most OSes. Linux updates (excluding the kernel) don't require a reboot and the install i

by pfranz 10y ago

Fedora is the "cutting edge" and it's expected to have more churn than most OSes. Linux updates (excluding the kernel) don't require a reboot and the install itself doesn't require downtime. So daily updates to packages aren't a problem. Even with kernel updates I only have to reboot once. With a fresh install of Windows, it is 3 or 4 reboots with large downloads in between and sitting looking at an update screen for hours--that's frustrating. > I don't know for how long you have been disconnected, but it's to be expected the updates will pile up and will have to be dealt with at some point. Sure, but have some respect for the user. I told it not to install the updates right now. It shut down in a way where it did not ask to save my work. I also have no choice but to sit and wait for my computer to install updates instead of working. That could easily have been in a situation where it can cause someone to lose critical work, get fired or lose their business.

gtirloni 10y ago
Agreed, those are very good points. Something is definitely not right given the all the reports about unexpected reboots. Maybe the situation is better in Windows 10 vs. 8/8.1 but I wouldn't know. Because I'm used to daily updates from Fedora, maybe I haven't noticed how frequent/troublesome Windows updates have been lately. I remember reading an article on MSDN explaining how they had reduced the number of required reboots (completely forgot the details), but they need to do more work in this area.
- pfranz 10y ago
  The aggressiveness seems like the part that's new. There are videos of people live streaming and it dropping off to update to Windows 10 (not sure if any are faked) as well as other complaints like mine. I feel like Windows has always required reboots and many updates that required logout (which one would hope would get minimized). I've also heard about bundling updates for new installs (or people far behind). Last I remember they were still about to roll it out.
pyb 10y ago
This problem is so frequent that I try to remember to budget for 15 minutes, whenever I want to shut down my laptop.

by pfranz 10y ago

gtirloni 10y ago

Agreed, those are very good points. Something is definitely not right given the all the reports about unexpected reboots. Maybe the situation is better in Windows 10 vs. 8/8.1 but I wouldn't know. Because I'm used to daily updates from Fedora, maybe I haven't noticed how frequent/troublesome Windows updates have been lately. I remember reading an article on MSDN explaining how they had reduced the number of required reboots (completely forgot the details), but they need to do more work in this area.

pfranz 10y ago
The aggressiveness seems like the part that's new. There are videos of people live streaming and it dropping off to update to Windows 10 (not sure if any are faked) as well as other complaints like mine. I feel like Windows has always required reboots and many updates that required logout (which one would hope would get minimized). I've also heard about bundling updates for new installs (or people far behind). Last I remember they were still about to roll it out.

pyb 10y ago

This problem is so frequent that I try to remember to budget for 15 minutes, whenever I want to shut down my laptop.