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There are enough camps/programs targeted at young girls, that's not the problem. There is no institutional conspiracy to suppress women, the problem is strictl

by jazzyk 10y ago

There are enough camps/programs targeted at young girls, that's not the problem. There is no institutional conspiracy to suppress women, the problem is strictly cultural: NONE of my daughter's female friends in high school thought it was cool to take on any of the math/physics/programming classes. They were all interested in environment, film/acting, fashion, literature... This self-selection came predominantly from mass-media/pop-culture, and also, to some extent, from their mothers, none of whom works in tech (we are talking a wealthy suburb in the northeast US here). They never encouraged their daughters to go into tech. The fathers did, but not too convincingly, either.

parennoob 10y ago
> NONE of my daughter's female friends in high school thought it was cool to take on any of the math/physics/programming classes. They were all interested in environment, film/acting, fashion, literature (my daughter got interested into life sciences) Popular culture in the US massively lionizes professional sports, and shames younger people who are into programming and other non-social hobbies like nobody's business. In my opinion, if "women in tech" programs put half of their resources into solving these problems, they'd be hugely more successful. Unfortunately, that involves taking on fields other than professional programming (like television, media, and such), which they are either not ready or equipped to do.
clifanatic 10y ago
> NONE of my daughter's female friends in high school thought it was cool to take on any of the math/physics/programming classes. Neither did any of the men. Not when I was in school, and not now. Being nerdy is not cool, whether you're a boy or a girl. In fact, you're more likely to get beaten up for it as a boy than as a girl.
- loco5niner 10y ago
  Ummm.... I did (male). I didn't care if it was nerdy.

by jazzyk 10y ago

parennoob 10y ago

> NONE of my daughter's female friends in high school thought it was cool to take on any of the math/physics/programming classes. They were all interested in environment, film/acting, fashion, literature (my daughter got interested into life sciences) Popular culture in the US massively lionizes professional sports, and shames younger people who are into programming and other non-social hobbies like nobody's business. In my opinion, if "women in tech" programs put half of their resources into solving these problems, they'd be hugely more successful. Unfortunately, that involves taking on fields other than professional programming (like television, media, and such), which they are either not ready or equipped to do.

clifanatic 10y ago

> NONE of my daughter's female friends in high school thought it was cool to take on any of the math/physics/programming classes. Neither did any of the men. Not when I was in school, and not now. Being nerdy is not cool, whether you're a boy or a girl. In fact, you're more likely to get beaten up for it as a boy than as a girl.

loco5niner 10y ago
Ummm.... I did (male). I didn't care if it was nerdy.