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If I--or any normal person--was in the same situation If you define "normal" as "milquetoast and with an Americentric perspective," then maybe. Americans are

If I--or any normal person--was in the same situation If you define "normal" as "milquetoast and with an Americentric perspective," then maybe. Americans are much more submissive when bureaucratic process presents a roadblock. Especially a roadblock that seems on the face more reasonable with an American view of sharing bank accounts and old hardware. Americans' desire for justice and fairness are paraded around. But their sense of justice is beaten out of them until they have Dwight Schrute-esque compliance "That is the law, according to the rules."

eridius 10y ago
Saying "I understand why you linked these accounts and that my relative committed fraud" is not the same thing as being submissive and rolling over, and your portrayal of Americans is rather offensive.
- forgottenpass 10y ago
  It's an unreasonable level of deference to a business process that we now understand can err. And that even if it didn't err in this case, we now know it to be designed to err. It unconditionally resolves an ambiguity into the direction that makes their other work easier, regardless of if the data is less correct. And that even if their contracts of adhesion makes the err legally (or at least bureaucratically) robust, doesn't make it just. your portrayal of Americans is rather offensive. You have a good point. Voicing my disappointment in my fellow countrymen might go over better at HN I were doing something minor, like accusing ~40% of them of racism for not sharing the opinion that the Democrats' policy positions are the lesser of two evils.
  - eridius 10y ago
    > It unconditionally resolves an ambiguity into the direction that makes their other work easier, regardless of if the data is less correct. What the hell are you talking about? Apple spent at least two years investigating this issue, and was in repeated contact with the developer committing fraud. It's clear that this process is designed to be as conservative as possible, because if it wasn't, it wouldn't take two years to finally hit the point of closing the account.
cocktailpeanuts 10y ago
Unless you've lived for meaningful amount of time in various cultures throughout your life, this type of stereotype ("Americans are such and such") tells more about yourself than what really is true. I say this because I have lived in multiple countries/cultures and have seen many people who say the same thing. Regardless of which country you live in, there are people who talk about how some bad human trait is specific to only their culture. If people from all other countries say the same thing, it probably means it's not unique to only your people. Also, this is not an American thing. This is called "courtesy".

eridius 10y ago

Saying "I understand why you linked these accounts and that my relative committed fraud" is not the same thing as being submissive and rolling over, and your portrayal of Americans is rather offensive.

forgottenpass 10y ago
It's an unreasonable level of deference to a business process that we now understand can err. And that even if it didn't err in this case, we now know it to be designed to err. It unconditionally resolves an ambiguity into the direction that makes their other work easier, regardless of if the data is less correct. And that even if their contracts of adhesion makes the err legally (or at least bureaucratically) robust, doesn't make it just. your portrayal of Americans is rather offensive. You have a good point. Voicing my disappointment in my fellow countrymen might go over better at HN I were doing something minor, like accusing ~40% of them of racism for not sharing the opinion that the Democrats' policy positions are the lesser of two evils.
- eridius 10y ago
  > It unconditionally resolves an ambiguity into the direction that makes their other work easier, regardless of if the data is less correct. What the hell are you talking about? Apple spent at least two years investigating this issue, and was in repeated contact with the developer committing fraud. It's clear that this process is designed to be as conservative as possible, because if it wasn't, it wouldn't take two years to finally hit the point of closing the account.

cocktailpeanuts 10y ago

Unless you've lived for meaningful amount of time in various cultures throughout your life, this type of stereotype ("Americans are such and such") tells more about yourself than what really is true. I say this because I have lived in multiple countries/cultures and have seen many people who say the same thing. Regardless of which country you live in, there are people who talk about how some bad human trait is specific to only their culture. If people from all other countries say the same thing, it probably means it's not unique to only your people. Also, this is not an American thing. This is called "courtesy".