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Last night Windows 10 popped up a notification while i was gaming "Windows 10 is going to restart in 3 minutes with options "Now" and "Cancel". I clicked cancel

Last night Windows 10 popped up a notification while i was gaming "Windows 10 is going to restart in 3 minutes with options "Now" and "Cancel". I clicked cancel and 15 minutes later it just restarted in my face, while i was ACTIVELY using it, no notification, no popup, just blam, 1,5h of updates. I might have been doing a project and lost half a day of my work just as well. Now I have to go and take all permisions away from Reboot service in Windows 10 Also it keeps adding fucking Edge and Store to my quickbar every single update Is Microsoft retarded? How can this be a good idea

gtirloni 10y ago
I have never experienced this with Windows 10. Every time I said 'no' to reboot, it never rebooted. It only re-added Edge/Store to the taskbar after major updates (that is, the first one and the anniversary update). It never did that on Patch Tuesday for random updates. I wonder what's different between your and my computer. Are you using Home, Pro, Enterprise or Education edition? I'm on Pro here.
- pfranz 10y ago
  I'm running 8.1 Pro here at work and the exact same thing happened to me. We generally run the computers disconnected from the Internet. I had connected to the Internet, came back to my desk to see a countdown dialog, rushed to click "Cancel." About 10 minutes later the computer was forcibly shut down to install updates. I figured, "might as well get all these updates out of the way." So after that round of updates installed it said it needed to restart in order to install updates. After that I checked for updates and it needed to restart a third time. I hadn't used Windows since XP and forgot how many times you need to reboot and how often updates get released (I'm used to Linux and MacOS). The aggressiveness is also very annoying--bordering on making things unreliable.
  - gtirloni 10y ago
    You may have a bunch of pending security updates that can't be delayed any longer. Plus, if you're missing more than one of the 'big updates', it'll reboot many times. The anniversary updates alone will reboot 2-3x. I don't know for how long you have been disconnected, but it's to be expected the updates will pile up and will have to be dealt with at some point. I'm dual booting Fedora and Windows 10 and I get way fewer updates on Windows than on Linux (every single day there's a new update). I've left a laptop with Fedora alone for 2 months and when I booted it, there were 1.4GB of updates. Personally I like the bug fixes, improvements and security fixes. I think it's a fair trade-off (on whatever platform you're -- I get app updates on my Android phone every other day).
    - pfranz 10y ago
      Fedora is the "cutting edge" and it's expected to have more churn than most OSes. Linux updates (excluding the kernel) don't require a reboot and the install itself doesn't require downtime. So daily updates to packages aren't a problem. Even with kernel updates I only have to reboot once. With a fresh install of Windows, it is 3 or 4 reboots with large downloads in between and sitting looking at an update screen for hours--that's frustrating. > I don't know for how long you have been disconnected, but it's to be expected the updates will pile up and will have to be dealt with at some point. Sure, but have some respect for the user. I told it not to install the updates right now. It shut down in a way where it did not ask to save my work. I also have no choice but to sit and wait for my computer to install updates instead of working. That could easily have been in a situation where it can cause someone to lose critical work, get fired or lose their business.
      - gtirloni 10y ago
        Agreed, those are very good points. Something is definitely not right given the all the reports about unexpected reboots. Maybe the situation is better in Windows 10 vs. 8/8.1 but I wouldn't know. Because I'm used to daily updates from Fedora, maybe I haven't noticed how frequent/troublesome Windows updates have been lately. I remember reading an article on MSDN explaining how they had reduced the number of required reboots (completely forgot the details), but they need to do more work in this area.
        pfranz 10y ago
        The aggressiveness seems like the part that's new. There are videos of people live streaming and it dropping off to update to Windows 10 (not sure if any are faked) as well as other complaints like mine. I feel like Windows has always required reboots and many updates that required logout (which one would hope would get minimized). I've also heard about bundling updates for new installs (or people far behind). Last I remember they were still about to roll it out.
      - pyb 10y ago
        This problem is so frequent that I try to remember to budget for 15 minutes, whenever I want to shut down my laptop.
pyb 10y ago
My Windows 10 woke up and rebooted when it was it sleep mode. I didn't care that some applications such as Virtualbox were running.
- pyb 10y ago
  I noticed the cause was an upgrade : it had lost a number of my settings.
somedangedname 10y ago
> Also it keeps adding fucking Edge and Store to my quickbar every single update This and the Cortana notifications are a real pain.

gtirloni 10y ago

I have never experienced this with Windows 10. Every time I said 'no' to reboot, it never rebooted. It only re-added Edge/Store to the taskbar after major updates (that is, the first one and the anniversary update). It never did that on Patch Tuesday for random updates. I wonder what's different between your and my computer. Are you using Home, Pro, Enterprise or Education edition? I'm on Pro here.

pfranz 10y ago
I'm running 8.1 Pro here at work and the exact same thing happened to me. We generally run the computers disconnected from the Internet. I had connected to the Internet, came back to my desk to see a countdown dialog, rushed to click "Cancel." About 10 minutes later the computer was forcibly shut down to install updates. I figured, "might as well get all these updates out of the way." So after that round of updates installed it said it needed to restart in order to install updates. After that I checked for updates and it needed to restart a third time. I hadn't used Windows since XP and forgot how many times you need to reboot and how often updates get released (I'm used to Linux and MacOS). The aggressiveness is also very annoying--bordering on making things unreliable.
- gtirloni 10y ago
  You may have a bunch of pending security updates that can't be delayed any longer. Plus, if you're missing more than one of the 'big updates', it'll reboot many times. The anniversary updates alone will reboot 2-3x. I don't know for how long you have been disconnected, but it's to be expected the updates will pile up and will have to be dealt with at some point. I'm dual booting Fedora and Windows 10 and I get way fewer updates on Windows than on Linux (every single day there's a new update). I've left a laptop with Fedora alone for 2 months and when I booted it, there were 1.4GB of updates. Personally I like the bug fixes, improvements and security fixes. I think it's a fair trade-off (on whatever platform you're -- I get app updates on my Android phone every other day).
  - pfranz 10y ago
    Fedora is the "cutting edge" and it's expected to have more churn than most OSes. Linux updates (excluding the kernel) don't require a reboot and the install itself doesn't require downtime. So daily updates to packages aren't a problem. Even with kernel updates I only have to reboot once. With a fresh install of Windows, it is 3 or 4 reboots with large downloads in between and sitting looking at an update screen for hours--that's frustrating. > I don't know for how long you have been disconnected, but it's to be expected the updates will pile up and will have to be dealt with at some point. Sure, but have some respect for the user. I told it not to install the updates right now. It shut down in a way where it did not ask to save my work. I also have no choice but to sit and wait for my computer to install updates instead of working. That could easily have been in a situation where it can cause someone to lose critical work, get fired or lose their business.
    - gtirloni 10y ago
      Agreed, those are very good points. Something is definitely not right given the all the reports about unexpected reboots. Maybe the situation is better in Windows 10 vs. 8/8.1 but I wouldn't know. Because I'm used to daily updates from Fedora, maybe I haven't noticed how frequent/troublesome Windows updates have been lately. I remember reading an article on MSDN explaining how they had reduced the number of required reboots (completely forgot the details), but they need to do more work in this area.
      - pfranz 10y ago
        The aggressiveness seems like the part that's new. There are videos of people live streaming and it dropping off to update to Windows 10 (not sure if any are faked) as well as other complaints like mine. I feel like Windows has always required reboots and many updates that required logout (which one would hope would get minimized). I've also heard about bundling updates for new installs (or people far behind). Last I remember they were still about to roll it out.
    - pyb 10y ago
      This problem is so frequent that I try to remember to budget for 15 minutes, whenever I want to shut down my laptop.

pyb 10y ago

My Windows 10 woke up and rebooted when it was it sleep mode. I didn't care that some applications such as Virtualbox were running.

pyb 10y ago
I noticed the cause was an upgrade : it had lost a number of my settings.

somedangedname 10y ago

> Also it keeps adding fucking Edge and Store to my quickbar every single update This and the Cortana notifications are a real pain.