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Oh you shouldn't have opened this can of worms. Now that you have done so, I have a simple retort. The only person of African descent to win a real* Nobel Pri
by internaut 10y ago
Oh you shouldn't have opened this can of worms.
Now that you have done so, I have a simple retort.
The only person of African descent to win a real* Nobel Prize was Sir William Arthur Lewis for Economics, and that chap was obviously fairly well anglicized. Just look at his bio!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Arthur_Lewis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Arthur_Lewis
* If we're working with the colloquial meaning of the phrase Nobel Prize, then winning it for 'Peace', while honorable and relevant to Alfred's original intent, isn't an intellectual feat. Intellectual prowess has nothing to do with morality, noble though it could be.
Now onto Muslims.
From Wikipedia:
Muslims make up over 23% of the world's population.[5][6][7] And as of 2015, twelve Nobel Prize winners have been Muslims.
Again, if you discount 'Peace' then only 3 Muslims have obtained a Nobel Prize for an intellectual reason.
If one categorizes writing as of equal intellectual consequence as physics or chemistry, you only get an additional 2 winners.
The long and short of it is that African and Middle Easterners are populations which are in the billions but which have a single digit number of Nobel Prize winners.
That makes perfect sense even if you don't believe race is a real biological concept since those are the areas of our planet that have experienced the least amount of progress, dare I say civilization.
If you dispute the Nobel Prize as evidence of an objective way to measure intellectual prowess I'll completely agree with you (even though I believe more objective metrics are likely to yield similar results), there are many intelligent people who have performed feats who don't get a Nobel Prize, but then maybe it points to the idea you shouldn't write headlines like "Amid debate, all 2016 American Nobel laureates are immigrants" because that is total bullshit.
- toomanybeersies 10y agoWouldn't it seem purely logical that poorer countries would have less Nobel Prize winners? I suspect that there are not huge amounts of theoretical physicists in Afghanistan. Trying to equate it to how "civilised" a nation is, is just racism.
- internaut 10y ago> Trying to equate it to how "civilised" a nation is, is just racism. Is that all you have got? Your ideals are intellectually dysfunctional, leading to stagnation, anarchy and death as they have done so in every age. The whitewash job on history is peeling off and every day that passes undermines your credibility. Watch, as Venezuela and South Africa collapse into an abyss. Watch, as each generation sinks deeper into poverty than the one before it. Working harder, for less, every day. Watch, as the fires rise in France and it becomes unsafe to walk the streets in our own cities. That is your work devil.