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Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever. For example they were ahead of ev

Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever. For example they were ahead of everyone with the Theranos news. I think the idea of putting links on HN is its better to know about it asap, rather than possibly using a slower or less comprehensive source.

metafunctor 10y ago
That's a good point, and I applaud the Wall Street Journal for their journalistic efforts. I'm thinking we should get a WSJ subscription in our company. I'm not so sure if Hacker News should be an outlet for breaking news. The HN platform is not very well suited for real-time news in general. Myself, I use Hacker news for "daily important news" much less than breaking news.
- johnchristopher 10y ago
  I don't like getting into word definition argument but doesn't that information about Samsung fall under the daily important news rather than the breaking news ?
  - metafunctor 10y ago
    Yes, it does. That's why I'd like to see a link to a free source (that doesn't require one to pull ostentibly illegal tricks to read the contents) rather than an advertisement.
    - johnchristopher 10y ago
      Ah, my bad. I misinterpreted.
leereeves 10y ago
But is this exclusive content? Is there anything in the WSJ article that isn't in another source, like The Telegraph? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/10/11/samsung-tells-galaxy-note-7-owners-to-turn-off-devices-and-stops/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/10/11/samsung-tel...
apaprocki 10y ago
Bloomberg story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/samsung-ends-production-of-note-7-after-global-recall-new-fires https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/samsung-e...
rms_returns 10y ago
BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37618618 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37618618
hackerkid 10y ago
> Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever This story has been in Reddit home page for last 14 hours pointing to the original source on the official Samsung website[1]. This content is neither exclusive nor breaking. [1] https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-partners-to-stop-sales-and-exchanges-of-galaxy-note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-...
- novaleaf 10y ago
  That's not exactly true. The story that's been floating around for 14 hours is that sales have been put on hold and all units should be recalled. This WSJ article on samsung PERMANENTLY discontinuing sales is a substantially different development.
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richardboegli 10y ago
Bloomberg actually had it almost two hours earlier than WSJ. I've just posted it to HN just now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12684081 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12684081
- arjie 10y ago
  Yeah, but Bloomberg publishes a lot of rubbish. Rumours and lots of secondary news, so you never know if it is true.
  - novaleaf 10y ago
    re: the parent's downvoters: ok, so @arjie is a bit on the snarky side, but he does have a point.
Grishnakh 10y ago
>I think the idea of putting links on HN is its better to know about it asap, rather than possibly using a slower or less comprehensive source. I agree, but in light of the comments above about their horrific and unethical subscription-cancellation policies and practices, I think there should be a clear warning attached to every link from a news source like this, highlighting exactly what you're getting into if you choose to subscribe in order to read the article.

metafunctor 10y ago

That's a good point, and I applaud the Wall Street Journal for their journalistic efforts. I'm thinking we should get a WSJ subscription in our company. I'm not so sure if Hacker News should be an outlet for breaking news. The HN platform is not very well suited for real-time news in general. Myself, I use Hacker news for "daily important news" much less than breaking news.

johnchristopher 10y ago
I don't like getting into word definition argument but doesn't that information about Samsung fall under the daily important news rather than the breaking news ?
- metafunctor 10y ago
  Yes, it does. That's why I'd like to see a link to a free source (that doesn't require one to pull ostentibly illegal tricks to read the contents) rather than an advertisement.
  - johnchristopher 10y ago
    Ah, my bad. I misinterpreted.

leereeves 10y ago

But is this exclusive content? Is there anything in the WSJ article that isn't in another source, like The Telegraph? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/10/11/samsung-tells-galaxy-note-7-owners-to-turn-off-devices-and-stops/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/10/11/samsung-tel...

apaprocki 10y ago

Bloomberg story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/samsung-ends-production-of-note-7-after-global-recall-new-fires https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-11/samsung-e...

rms_returns 10y ago

BBC News: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37618618 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37618618

hackerkid 10y ago

> Because sometimes they break stories and have exclusive content and in depth info that others won't have immediately if ever This story has been in Reddit home page for last 14 hours pointing to the original source on the official Samsung website[1]. This content is neither exclusive nor breaking. [1] https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-partners-to-stop-sales-and-exchanges-of-galaxy-note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-...

novaleaf 10y ago
That's not exactly true. The story that's been floating around for 14 hours is that sales have been put on hold and all units should be recalled. This WSJ article on samsung PERMANENTLY discontinuing sales is a substantially different development.
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richardboegli 10y ago

Bloomberg actually had it almost two hours earlier than WSJ. I've just posted it to HN just now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12684081 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12684081

arjie 10y ago
Yeah, but Bloomberg publishes a lot of rubbish. Rumours and lots of secondary news, so you never know if it is true.
- novaleaf 10y ago
  re: the parent's downvoters: ok, so @arjie is a bit on the snarky side, but he does have a point.

Grishnakh 10y ago

>I think the idea of putting links on HN is its better to know about it asap, rather than possibly using a slower or less comprehensive source. I agree, but in light of the comments above about their horrific and unethical subscription-cancellation policies and practices, I think there should be a clear warning attached to every link from a news source like this, highlighting exactly what you're getting into if you choose to subscribe in order to read the article.