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The Takata airbag recall as well as the Note 7 are two of the most high profile recalls I can think of in recent history. Can anyone think of any other recalls

The Takata airbag recall as well as the Note 7 are two of the most high profile recalls I can think of in recent history. Can anyone think of any other recalls that affected so many consumers and received so much press coverage?

zeusk 10y ago
Ford Pinto, Intel Pentium
- Analemma_ 10y ago
  And people are still making exploding Pinto jokes, almost 40 years later, so don't hold your breath on some relief from the Samsung wisecracking.
  - megablast 10y ago
    Sure, but are ford hurting? Did they ever come close?
  - M_Grey 10y ago
    Seriously... people will forgive and forget a lot, but something they don't expect to explode, exploding on them? Memorable.
  - AlexDanger 10y ago
    And yet I dont see anyone complaining about Intel processors being unable to do FP calculations. People made jokes for a while with the FDIV bug but Intel just did the recall and moved on. Samsung will get over it. So will consumers. The brand is a juggernaut.
    - fpgeek 10y ago
      I don't know that they will. If the first recall had been enough - that they'd really found the problem, fixed it and made things up to their customers, I think they could have done well. Taking decisive, painful and effective action would have demonstrated their commitment to their customers. But they didn't solve the problem, gave people replacement devices they said were safe and were wrong about that again. I'm not suggesting malice here. I think that it is perfectly plausible (even likely) that they thought they had found and fixed the problem and were just wrong. But that doesn't really matter. They may not be malicious, but they are demonstrably incompetent when it comes to safety. That's probably worse.
      - AlexDanger 10y ago
        Oh I agree this is not malice. Sounds like some battery supplier to Samsung screwed up. No excuses from Samsung QA but presumably the battery supplier really screwed up their QA or manufacturing processes. Even with the news that the Note 7 is effectively dead....I dont think this will be more than a blip on Samsung's history and some uncomfortable quarterly financial reports. I am certain they are not 'finished' in the sense that consumers will stop purchasing Samsung phones. Time will tell.
    - pjmlp 10y ago
      Except there aren't really alternatives for PC compatible hardware, in what concerns x86 processors. AMD is nice and all, I do have a few computers with them, but they hardly matter worldwide in terms of marketshare. Samsung is another matter, there are plenty of smartphone brands to choose from and compatibility isn't a requirement.
      - AlexDanger 10y ago
        There arent currently alternatives in the x86 market. Certainly Intel were the biggest back then, but the market share was around 70-75% not 85%+ that is it now. I remember when this FDIV bug happened in ~94-95, at the time there were plenty of x86 manufacturers. AMD presented probably the biggest competitive threat to Intel. IBM, Cyrix, VIA were all cheap-and-cheerful CPUs that found their way into plenty of office desktops via OEMs. AMD were a serious problem for Intel around 1998-2001 with their K7 architecture. The Athlons and Durons were incredible bang for buck and owned the desktop high-end mindshare. Anyway that's a discussion for another time :) Back to phones - Samsung dominate the Android phone space. Time will tell if people move away but history suggests they'll be perfectly fine. People still drive Toyota despite product defects killing people. I guarantee in 12 months people wont give a shit if the latest Samsung phone is a top performer. Phones are a status symbol. Safety rarely trumps fashion in the consumer retail world.
daigoba66 10y ago
Not exactly recent history, but perhaps still the highest profile to date? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders
niels_olson 10y ago
This is trivia compared to the Ford tire recalls or the Toyota brakes recall.
- tigershark 10y ago
  I don't think so. If that airplane had already departed when the replaced and supposedly safe phone caught fire a lot of people would be probably dead. I would not call this trivia.
- rconti 10y ago
  Not that you're wrong about how well-known the Toyota unintended acceleration fiasco was, but, despite agreeing to a settlement, there's simply no evidence that there was anything wrong with the cars.
  - mkhpalm 10y ago
    I can't see how they had a choice in the matter. What I found the strangest about all these dire Toyota NHTSA problems came about right after the US Government became the major shareholder to the GM corporation, did the auto bailouts, cash for clunkers, etc. Very coincidental.
objclxt 10y ago
In the UK about ten years ago Coke launched Dasani Water only to have a complete PR disaster when two things happened 1. The UK isn't used to the idea of bottled water from the tap, versus a spring, which caused some mockery which may have been survivable except... 2. After testing by food standards agencies the water was found to have elevated levels of bromate causing all stock to be recalled. The upshot was the brand was completely tainted in the UK and was never relaunched by Coke there.
- chipperyman573 10y ago
  Does coke have any watered bottle brands in the UK, just not labeled as Dasani?
  - hrrsn 10y ago
    Looks like they sell Schweppes water in the UK. http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/drinks/schweppes-water/schweppes-abbey-well-british-spring-water-still http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/drinks/schweppes-water/schweppes-...
  - hayksaakian 10y ago
    Glaceu
  - anexprogrammer 10y ago
    Smartwater - "inspired by rain" or something like that. It is hilarious and offensive in equal measure. They take Lake District spring water, distil it (removing any point of using spring water, and using a ton of pointless extra energy), then inject some snake oil, sorry electrolytes.
  - dingaling 10y ago
    Coca-Cola sell River Rock bottled water in NI and Ireland but I don't think that they 'export' it to the big island
pjmorris 10y ago
Sub-prime mortgages?
- zeusk 10y ago
  MBS crisis wasn't because of a "recall" or even because of the excessive bad loans. What really killed the system was that there were side bets worth magnitudes more than the MBS securities themselves that the market would keep going up because no-one really looked into the crap going under those bonds and how risky they really were.
  - pjmorris 10y ago
    I should've said 'credit default swaps'. OTOH, is it fair to say that the CDS prompted an excess of mortgages? And I do think there's room for viewing the extraordinary actions the Fed took as a recall, e.g. MBS purchases during QE 1, 2, 3....
kendallpark 10y ago
The ending of Mass Effect 3.

zeusk 10y ago

Ford Pinto, Intel Pentium

Analemma_ 10y ago
And people are still making exploding Pinto jokes, almost 40 years later, so don't hold your breath on some relief from the Samsung wisecracking.
- megablast 10y ago
  Sure, but are ford hurting? Did they ever come close?
- M_Grey 10y ago
  Seriously... people will forgive and forget a lot, but something they don't expect to explode, exploding on them? Memorable.
- AlexDanger 10y ago
  And yet I dont see anyone complaining about Intel processors being unable to do FP calculations. People made jokes for a while with the FDIV bug but Intel just did the recall and moved on. Samsung will get over it. So will consumers. The brand is a juggernaut.
  - fpgeek 10y ago
    I don't know that they will. If the first recall had been enough - that they'd really found the problem, fixed it and made things up to their customers, I think they could have done well. Taking decisive, painful and effective action would have demonstrated their commitment to their customers. But they didn't solve the problem, gave people replacement devices they said were safe and were wrong about that again. I'm not suggesting malice here. I think that it is perfectly plausible (even likely) that they thought they had found and fixed the problem and were just wrong. But that doesn't really matter. They may not be malicious, but they are demonstrably incompetent when it comes to safety. That's probably worse.
    - AlexDanger 10y ago
      Oh I agree this is not malice. Sounds like some battery supplier to Samsung screwed up. No excuses from Samsung QA but presumably the battery supplier really screwed up their QA or manufacturing processes. Even with the news that the Note 7 is effectively dead....I dont think this will be more than a blip on Samsung's history and some uncomfortable quarterly financial reports. I am certain they are not 'finished' in the sense that consumers will stop purchasing Samsung phones. Time will tell.
  - pjmlp 10y ago
    Except there aren't really alternatives for PC compatible hardware, in what concerns x86 processors. AMD is nice and all, I do have a few computers with them, but they hardly matter worldwide in terms of marketshare. Samsung is another matter, there are plenty of smartphone brands to choose from and compatibility isn't a requirement.
    - AlexDanger 10y ago
      There arent currently alternatives in the x86 market. Certainly Intel were the biggest back then, but the market share was around 70-75% not 85%+ that is it now. I remember when this FDIV bug happened in ~94-95, at the time there were plenty of x86 manufacturers. AMD presented probably the biggest competitive threat to Intel. IBM, Cyrix, VIA were all cheap-and-cheerful CPUs that found their way into plenty of office desktops via OEMs. AMD were a serious problem for Intel around 1998-2001 with their K7 architecture. The Athlons and Durons were incredible bang for buck and owned the desktop high-end mindshare. Anyway that's a discussion for another time :) Back to phones - Samsung dominate the Android phone space. Time will tell if people move away but history suggests they'll be perfectly fine. People still drive Toyota despite product defects killing people. I guarantee in 12 months people wont give a shit if the latest Samsung phone is a top performer. Phones are a status symbol. Safety rarely trumps fashion in the consumer retail world.

daigoba66 10y ago

Not exactly recent history, but perhaps still the highest profile to date? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders

niels_olson 10y ago

This is trivia compared to the Ford tire recalls or the Toyota brakes recall.

tigershark 10y ago
I don't think so. If that airplane had already departed when the replaced and supposedly safe phone caught fire a lot of people would be probably dead. I would not call this trivia.
rconti 10y ago
Not that you're wrong about how well-known the Toyota unintended acceleration fiasco was, but, despite agreeing to a settlement, there's simply no evidence that there was anything wrong with the cars.
- mkhpalm 10y ago
  I can't see how they had a choice in the matter. What I found the strangest about all these dire Toyota NHTSA problems came about right after the US Government became the major shareholder to the GM corporation, did the auto bailouts, cash for clunkers, etc. Very coincidental.

objclxt 10y ago

In the UK about ten years ago Coke launched Dasani Water only to have a complete PR disaster when two things happened 1. The UK isn't used to the idea of bottled water from the tap, versus a spring, which caused some mockery which may have been survivable except... 2. After testing by food standards agencies the water was found to have elevated levels of bromate causing all stock to be recalled. The upshot was the brand was completely tainted in the UK and was never relaunched by Coke there.

chipperyman573 10y ago
Does coke have any watered bottle brands in the UK, just not labeled as Dasani?
- hrrsn 10y ago
  Looks like they sell Schweppes water in the UK. http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/drinks/schweppes-water/schweppes-abbey-well-british-spring-water-still http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/drinks/schweppes-water/schweppes-...
- hayksaakian 10y ago
  Glaceu
- anexprogrammer 10y ago
  Smartwater - "inspired by rain" or something like that. It is hilarious and offensive in equal measure. They take Lake District spring water, distil it (removing any point of using spring water, and using a ton of pointless extra energy), then inject some snake oil, sorry electrolytes.
- dingaling 10y ago
  Coca-Cola sell River Rock bottled water in NI and Ireland but I don't think that they 'export' it to the big island

pjmorris 10y ago

Sub-prime mortgages?

zeusk 10y ago
MBS crisis wasn't because of a "recall" or even because of the excessive bad loans. What really killed the system was that there were side bets worth magnitudes more than the MBS securities themselves that the market would keep going up because no-one really looked into the crap going under those bonds and how risky they really were.
- pjmorris 10y ago
  I should've said 'credit default swaps'. OTOH, is it fair to say that the CDS prompted an excess of mortgages? And I do think there's room for viewing the extraordinary actions the Fed took as a recall, e.g. MBS purchases during QE 1, 2, 3....

kendallpark 10y ago

The ending of Mass Effect 3.