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Sexual assault? He said "they let you do it if you are rich and famous". Now that's real news. He didn't say that he'd force himself on them against their wishe

Sexual assault? He said "they let you do it if you are rich and famous". Now that's real news. He didn't say that he'd force himself on them against their wishes. You might feel it's scummy to think that way but claiming this is sexual assault is ridiculous.

jacalata 10y ago
"They let you do it" is not consent, it's the absence of fighting back. A woman does not have to physically fight her attacker for it to be assault. Consider the phrasing "they let you do it if you hold a gun to their head".
- dracht 10y ago
  Ridiculous analogy. Being rich and famous (=high status, attractive mate) is nothing like holding a gun to someone's head (=threat of violence). A fairer comparison might be "they let you do it if you look like Brad Pitt". Is that less sexual assault-y in your book?
- DominikR 10y ago
  Apparently you have difficulty reasoning objectively about this issue. Let's agree to disagree and move on with life. For you it's sexual assault because you imagine him attacking women without any warning while I on the other hand have no reason to believe that he isn't escalating sexually in a normal way, leaving room for women to say no or move a step back to signal a no. Edit: When I think about it then I must be a sexual predator according to your definition. I cannot remember to have ever explicitly asked a women if I may kiss her.
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  - thesimpsons1022 10y ago
    think what you want. next we'll have video proof of him doing it that is conclusive and you'll make up some other defense. truly irredeemable. edit: and yes you probably are then. glad you admitted it. please turn yourself in.
    - DominikR 10y ago
      Maybe it works for you to ask first (I doubt you are serious about this) but I would not advise any man to do this.
  - danenania 10y ago
    Sorry, no. There is no universe in which "grab 'em by the pussy" is part of a normal escalation. We're talking (very plainly) about sexual assault. It's pretty sick to see people trying to defend this.
    - DominikR 10y ago
      Of course it is at some point or didn't you ever touch a women? The problem is that you people all take Trumps words literally, but he isn't a politician and therefore he doesn't talk like one.
  - jacalata 10y ago
    In related news, here's a story I just saw about multiple women accusing him of sexual assault http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-women-trump-20161012-story.html http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-women-trump... I mean, in case the previous public stories about his rape accusations, his use of his position at beauty pageants to go ogle naked women when they couldn't do anything about it, and his general tendency to abuse the power of his wealth and business roles wherever possible didn't seem relevant enough for you.
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jacalata 10y ago

"They let you do it" is not consent, it's the absence of fighting back. A woman does not have to physically fight her attacker for it to be assault. Consider the phrasing "they let you do it if you hold a gun to their head".

dracht 10y ago
Ridiculous analogy. Being rich and famous (=high status, attractive mate) is nothing like holding a gun to someone's head (=threat of violence). A fairer comparison might be "they let you do it if you look like Brad Pitt". Is that less sexual assault-y in your book?
DominikR 10y ago
Apparently you have difficulty reasoning objectively about this issue. Let's agree to disagree and move on with life. For you it's sexual assault because you imagine him attacking women without any warning while I on the other hand have no reason to believe that he isn't escalating sexually in a normal way, leaving room for women to say no or move a step back to signal a no. Edit: When I think about it then I must be a sexual predator according to your definition. I cannot remember to have ever explicitly asked a women if I may kiss her.
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- thesimpsons1022 10y ago
  think what you want. next we'll have video proof of him doing it that is conclusive and you'll make up some other defense. truly irredeemable. edit: and yes you probably are then. glad you admitted it. please turn yourself in.
  - DominikR 10y ago
    Maybe it works for you to ask first (I doubt you are serious about this) but I would not advise any man to do this.
- danenania 10y ago
  Sorry, no. There is no universe in which "grab 'em by the pussy" is part of a normal escalation. We're talking (very plainly) about sexual assault. It's pretty sick to see people trying to defend this.
  - DominikR 10y ago
    Of course it is at some point or didn't you ever touch a women? The problem is that you people all take Trumps words literally, but he isn't a politician and therefore he doesn't talk like one.
- jacalata 10y ago
  In related news, here's a story I just saw about multiple women accusing him of sexual assault http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-women-trump-20161012-story.html http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-women-trump... I mean, in case the previous public stories about his rape accusations, his use of his position at beauty pageants to go ogle naked women when they couldn't do anything about it, and his general tendency to abuse the power of his wealth and business roles wherever possible didn't seem relevant enough for you.
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