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Sure, if you're a Hacker News(tm) web developer. But computin' is such a big field...

by tomc1985 10y ago

eropple 10y ago
Or if I'm a high-school student in 2005. Because I was building Wordpress sites for people then. And staticize (or, later, staticize-reloaded) was on everything I built. If you can't step to a high-school student in a backwater state who had access to state-of-the-PHP eleven years ago when you want to start virtue-signaling your way to glory (and don't pretend creating an account just to post a story is anything but), you are not building a argument for yourself. The best part is, though? For all his very manly self-reliance, this blog of his is on a DigitalOcean droplet. He isn't "denying" anything to anyone, whether they deserve it or not (and that's a laughable sentiment in your OP anyway, while we're at it).
- tomc1985 10y ago
  Well, technically Linode. Not DO, but close enough :P That is pretty funny though. My sentiments remain. I want a world of self-reliant experts, not halfwitted idea-people who see technology as a means to an end. That may not be this world, but one can dream. PS: He admits as such in the blog that it is hosted on a VPS. And no one person is going to be able to step to another on every possible criteria. (Frankly, I read your high-school 2005 PHP staticize story with probably the same eye-rolling you gave that dude, cause i was building static HTML in elementary school in the 90s and was doing dynamic flash sites before AJAX became a think in the mid-aughts... and the dude sitting one cubicle over would roll HIS eyes at me because he used to program simulators and missile code for the military in the 70s and 80s. Holier-than-thou can backfire)
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  - eropple 10y ago
    I was building static sites in elementary school in the nineties, too. I was building correct things that worked in a business context in high school in 2005. In your haste to praise the guy for nonsense virtues of "self-reliance"--and let me be real for a sec, I've been paid in the last year to debug kernel drivers on physical hardware and architect self-bootstrapping, multi-tier, cross-datacenter systems, I could be said to be big on "self-reliance"--you missed the forest for the trees: his stuff doesn't work. Setting up mail is easy. Setting up a web server that doesn't go down under medium load is easy. If you want to lecture others about this sort of thing, you had best come correct. Because those of us who do--and who especially those of us who are capable of using tools hosted in either our own racks or Amazon's without trouble, who are likely to have a problem with the shitty virtue-signaling in his post--will call you on it. Because the world is not so simple as to scream that "SaaS is bad!" and, sometimes, there are economics of scale worth leveraging. There is no virtue in refusing them; there are places for self-hosting and there are places for cloud systems and ascribing the rise of cloud services to "halfwitted idea-people" is a sign of a profoundly juvenile understanding of both the technologies and the economics involved.

Sure, if you're a Hacker News(tm) web developer. But computin' is such a big field...

Or if I'm a high-school student in 2005. Because I was building Wordpress sites for people then. And staticize (or, later, staticize-reloaded) was on everything I built. If you can't step to a high-school student in a backwater state who had access to state-of-the-PHP eleven years ago when you want to start virtue-signaling your way to glory (and don't pretend creating an account just to post a story is anything but), you are not building a argument for yourself. The best part is, though? For all his very manly self-reliance, this blog of his is on a DigitalOcean droplet. He isn't "denying" anything to anyone, whether they deserve it or not (and that's a laughable sentiment in your OP anyway, while we're at it).

tomc1985 10y ago
Well, technically Linode. Not DO, but close enough :P That is pretty funny though. My sentiments remain. I want a world of self-reliant experts, not halfwitted idea-people who see technology as a means to an end. That may not be this world, but one can dream. PS: He admits as such in the blog that it is hosted on a VPS. And no one person is going to be able to step to another on every possible criteria. (Frankly, I read your high-school 2005 PHP staticize story with probably the same eye-rolling you gave that dude, cause i was building static HTML in elementary school in the 90s and was doing dynamic flash sites before AJAX became a think in the mid-aughts... and the dude sitting one cubicle over would roll HIS eyes at me because he used to program simulators and missile code for the military in the 70s and 80s. Holier-than-thou can backfire)
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- eropple 10y ago
  I was building static sites in elementary school in the nineties, too. I was building correct things that worked in a business context in high school in 2005. In your haste to praise the guy for nonsense virtues of "self-reliance"--and let me be real for a sec, I've been paid in the last year to debug kernel drivers on physical hardware and architect self-bootstrapping, multi-tier, cross-datacenter systems, I could be said to be big on "self-reliance"--you missed the forest for the trees: his stuff doesn't work. Setting up mail is easy. Setting up a web server that doesn't go down under medium load is easy. If you want to lecture others about this sort of thing, you had best come correct. Because those of us who do--and who especially those of us who are capable of using tools hosted in either our own racks or Amazon's without trouble, who are likely to have a problem with the shitty virtue-signaling in his post--will call you on it. Because the world is not so simple as to scream that "SaaS is bad!" and, sometimes, there are economics of scale worth leveraging. There is no virtue in refusing them; there are places for self-hosting and there are places for cloud systems and ascribing the rise of cloud services to "halfwitted idea-people" is a sign of a profoundly juvenile understanding of both the technologies and the economics involved.