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I'm with you on the sugar, but caffeine? From the (very thorough) Wikipedia page, it appears that there are as many good side effects of caffeine (such as lower

I'm with you on the sugar, but caffeine? From the (very thorough) Wikipedia page, it appears that there are as many good side effects of caffeine (such as lower risk of certain cancers, Alzheimers and diabetes) as there are bad ones.

zinssmeister 10y ago
I think caffeine is great in the right dosage and setting (recreational). I don't advise using it at work if you are after high productivity http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm
- damienkatz 10y ago
  Really? A spiders reaction to caffeine is your reason? I just quit caffeine. I'm ready for some conformation bias to justify my decision, but this is pretty weak.
  - zinssmeister 10y ago
    I agree the spider-caffeine-thing is "weak". But it's a popular argument and I don't have anything more substantial at hand. Most people I know, that still drink coffee/caffeine do tell tales of feeling "wired" and "scattered" after consumption.
    - pkinsky 10y ago
      L-Theanine (amino acid found in green tea) supplements solve that problem.
      - jbpetersen 10y ago
        Got any good sources to read more about that?
        seanp2k2 10y ago
        Not a great source but it's in these and works for me: https://nootrobox.com/go-cubes https://nootrobox.com/go-cubes No jitters but if I take all 4 at once I get a pretty unpleasant "coming up" feeling for about 15 minutes. I usually just have 2 a day, and I'd recommend people start with 1 just in the morning.
    - adfm 10y ago
      Really!? Nice web. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DDg-r-S0fIkA&ved=0ahUKEwigodLGzNHPAhVG2WMKHQbFAEcQwqsBCB0wAA&usg=AFQjCNGrk__5Xjwa3MZ6qNJjTktXCGZSWQ&sig2=Dj25Avh1PzdvairhBOYTuA https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://...
    - digi_owl 10y ago
      That will depend on person and dosage thought. From persona experience i either have to go a few days without or drink my third cup (drip brewed) of the day to get anything noticeable.
- mancerayder 10y ago
  It's a fascinating study, but the problem with extrapolating to humans is that spider brains are closer to a more basic stimulant-response behavior than we are. On the other hand, spiders DO build web 'sites' and await food delivery...
  - nonbel 10y ago
    Some may find the accompanying video to be more convincing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2HipedgM3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2HipedgM3I
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    Never mind that the reason plants produce caffeine is that it is useful as a pesticide.
- taneq 10y ago
  Likewise, I hope you avoid onions and chocolate as both are toxic to dogs.
mark-r 10y ago
Are the benefits attributable to caffeine? I think they've all been linked to coffee specifically, and there may be other agents in coffee other than the caffeine that are responsible.
- duaneb 10y ago
  Yup, the same health benefits appear to be in decaf.
  - gcb0 10y ago
    decaf means "much less caffeine". not "no caffeine". so the effects might just need a trace amount.
kome 10y ago
> I'm with you on the sugar there are many good side of sugar as well, as there are bad ones. let's stop being religious with food. it's a question of education, and measure. The same could be said with fats, caffeine and so on.

zinssmeister 10y ago

I think caffeine is great in the right dosage and setting (recreational). I don't advise using it at work if you are after high productivity http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm

damienkatz 10y ago
Really? A spiders reaction to caffeine is your reason? I just quit caffeine. I'm ready for some conformation bias to justify my decision, but this is pretty weak.
- zinssmeister 10y ago
  I agree the spider-caffeine-thing is "weak". But it's a popular argument and I don't have anything more substantial at hand. Most people I know, that still drink coffee/caffeine do tell tales of feeling "wired" and "scattered" after consumption.
  - pkinsky 10y ago
    L-Theanine (amino acid found in green tea) supplements solve that problem.
    - jbpetersen 10y ago
      Got any good sources to read more about that?
      - seanp2k2 10y ago
        Not a great source but it's in these and works for me: https://nootrobox.com/go-cubes https://nootrobox.com/go-cubes No jitters but if I take all 4 at once I get a pretty unpleasant "coming up" feeling for about 15 minutes. I usually just have 2 a day, and I'd recommend people start with 1 just in the morning.
  - adfm 10y ago
    Really!? Nice web. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DDg-r-S0fIkA&ved=0ahUKEwigodLGzNHPAhVG2WMKHQbFAEcQwqsBCB0wAA&usg=AFQjCNGrk__5Xjwa3MZ6qNJjTktXCGZSWQ&sig2=Dj25Avh1PzdvairhBOYTuA https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://...
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    That will depend on person and dosage thought. From persona experience i either have to go a few days without or drink my third cup (drip brewed) of the day to get anything noticeable.
mancerayder 10y ago
It's a fascinating study, but the problem with extrapolating to humans is that spider brains are closer to a more basic stimulant-response behavior than we are. On the other hand, spiders DO build web 'sites' and await food delivery...
- nonbel 10y ago
  Some may find the accompanying video to be more convincing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2HipedgM3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2HipedgM3I
- digi_owl 10y ago
  Never mind that the reason plants produce caffeine is that it is useful as a pesticide.
taneq 10y ago
Likewise, I hope you avoid onions and chocolate as both are toxic to dogs.

mark-r 10y ago

Are the benefits attributable to caffeine? I think they've all been linked to coffee specifically, and there may be other agents in coffee other than the caffeine that are responsible.

duaneb 10y ago
Yup, the same health benefits appear to be in decaf.
- gcb0 10y ago
  decaf means "much less caffeine". not "no caffeine". so the effects might just need a trace amount.

kome 10y ago

> I'm with you on the sugar there are many good side of sugar as well, as there are bad ones. let's stop being religious with food. it's a question of education, and measure. The same could be said with fats, caffeine and so on.