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Maybe it's just me, but I don't give two shits about swear words. They are the same as other words to me and have almost no negative connotation. I don't thin
by lightbyte 10y ago
Maybe it's just me, but I don't give two shits about swear words. They are the same as other words to me and have almost no negative connotation. I don't think twice about swearing at work, and neither do the other people my age (24) that I work with.
- mc32 10y agoI think it's about the attitude it fosters and enables. It enables and fosters 'bro' culture and 'bachellorette' culture. And that can lead to people thinking it's okay to refer to others as bitches and duchebags etc.
- dmoy 10y agoThere's a difference. I swear profusely at work, but never at people.
- roflc0ptic 10y agoCareful with that slippery slope! I curse profusely and I think referring to people as bitches is 100% unacceptable. I think there's room for respectful swearing. Swear about ideas, don't swear about people.
- mc32 10y agoI suppose. I do see the difference, but go into a sales meeting after the client leaves and tell me how they speak about the client. The expletives are directed at both animate and inanimate entities.
- icebraining 10y agoYou can insult and belittle people without swearwords, the two are just commonly used together, not necessarily related.
- WallowC_33 10y agoAt offices I worked where swears were "ok", where even the CEO or other upper management were dropping F-bombs, it was still against the "rules" to call a person a "fuckface". Generally expletives are/were ok when stuff like tests fail, deploys fail, etc.. Calling a person a "douchebag" or "shithead" was not OK. "We're building fucking cool shit!" -- OK "Our PM is a useless asshole. Fucking prick!" -- Not OK
- stinkytaco 10y agoI don't agree with this. We swear about situations, problems, issues and so on, but when you attack people, with any type of words, you've stepped over a line.
- KaiserPro 10y agoNope. I am a sysadmin, I frequently swear in the most vulgar and crass way. However I do not and will not tolerate 'bro' culture. If you are acting like a cunt to my fellow worker, I will make your work life a fuck sight more testing. Do not pick on my fellow man/women, for I shall haunt you like a wet fart.
- oldmanjay 10y agoOh a sysadmin who is proud to be an asshole to people. No one saw that coming
- KaiserPro 10y agofirstly its "arsehole" Secondly its not proud of being an arsehole, its proud of standing up for people. No one bullies on my watch.
- mc32 10y agoMore and more people in the UK are adopting the north American variant. So looks like you prefer retaining tradition over change and are reticent to accept change, that said, good on you for bullying the bulliers.
- Swizec 10y agoSwearing is fucking lazy. Fuckig thing adds bloody nothing to damn sentences. No fucking value. Observe. Swearing is lazy. It adds nothing to sentences. No value. Which version was clearer? Caveat: swearing used strategically can be fucking beautiful.
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- zipppy 10y agoYour lazy form of swearing only involves using them as adjectives/adverbs. Something being 'fucking lazy' might not add more than something being 'lazy', but something being 'fucked' is an altogether different use.
- freshflowers 10y agoThe lazy part here is your writing and argumentation, not the fucking swearing.
- icebraining 10y agoIf you're typing or saying extra words for the same result, surely you're not being lazy.
- rubber_duck 10y agoI know that in my environment swearing does have a tone to it, it isn't a taboo but it isn't something you throw in to every sentence either. It's useful to sound more aggressive/assertive/confident - but if you use it all the time it loses weight.
- zild3d 10y agoThe vulgar spectrum (darn -> poop -> ... -> shit -> fuck -> ... -> cunt) and context are hugely important as well
- psyc 10y agoI'm 40, and I feel exactly the same, personally. However, I don't swear around others until it's been established that they're swearers too. That said, I don't think I've ever worked anywhere where people didn't swear pretty commonly. And when I was your age, the 40 year olds were swearing too.
- hanoz 10y agoI'm sure there are plenty of words you think are beyond the pale, they're just different from the ones previous generations did.
- ldiracdelta 10y agoExactly. The shade of the pearls may have changed, but certain words will _definitely_ still cause clutching of said pearls.
- Tenhundfeld 10y agoI'm in my mid 30's and generally agree with this attitude. However, I have a couple of rules: 1) Avoid swearing with clients/customers/investors, at least wait until a relationship is established and they signal they're okay with it. 2) Avoid swearing in written communication, e.g., in emails or commit messages – don't even really like seeing it in team-wide slack channels, though I do it occasionally. I don't mind swearing personally, but I do think it can be rude or unprofessional. Part of it is just signaling that you understand business etiquette and how to be polite in that setting – i.e., "professional." For example, if I'm interviewing someone who immediately starts dropping tons of f-bombs, I'm going to judge that negatively – not as a deal breaker but as a warning flag. I guess it would be similar to how I'd react if somebody immediately launched into a diatribe about religion or politics (regardless of whether I sympathized with their view). Like swearing, they're fine in a conversation between acquaintances, but they can easily veer into offensive territory if you don't know the other person. If you don't understand or don't care that you might be offending someone, I would be concerned about your ability to communicate effectively.