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And what do you propose to replace them?

by Thrillington 10y ago

wyager 10y ago
Why replace these functions of the court? Forced content removal has no place in a free society.
- CPLX 10y ago
  > Forced content removal has no place in a free society. How about we post a very convincing article on what appears to be a respected local newspaper site claiming that you've been arrested for sexual relations with an animal, conduct some solid SEO on it, and then send you out into the job market? Perhaps you'd revise your views on this subject. Libel and slander are ancient common law principles for good reason.
  - wyager 10y ago
    No, I probably wouldn't. I don't trust any government party to determine the objective truth. Think about what you are advocating; you want to give the government power to erase content they claim is wrong. "You claim Duterte advocated extrajudicial hit squads? That's libel, take it down. Or else."
    - CPLX 10y ago
      There's plenty of established precedent for this, and of course a head of state would qualify as a public figure under any libel or slander claim. I am strongly in favor of the first amendment, and would be opposed to prior restraint. None of those things have anything to do with the example I gave however.
  - jessaustin 10y ago
    This outlandish scenario reads to me like, "won't somebody please think of the children?" How could a normal person inspire such behavior? Having inspired it, what normal person could receive a satisfactory remedy through the courts? (Many people would seek that, but they'd often be disappointed...) Besides, this scenario only takes one step. Think it through a bit further. If such bizarre attacks become common, they'll lose their power because they'll no longer be believed. That would be a much better world than one in which lawyers must be hired every time an unsatisfactory restaurant review is written.
    - CPLX 10y ago
      There's nothing hypothetical at all about using scandalous or embarrassing information about regular people to generate revenue. Some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mug_shot_publishing_industry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mug_shot_publishing_industry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law

And what do you propose to replace them?

wyager 10y ago

Why replace these functions of the court? Forced content removal has no place in a free society.

CPLX 10y ago
> Forced content removal has no place in a free society. How about we post a very convincing article on what appears to be a respected local newspaper site claiming that you've been arrested for sexual relations with an animal, conduct some solid SEO on it, and then send you out into the job market? Perhaps you'd revise your views on this subject. Libel and slander are ancient common law principles for good reason.
- wyager 10y ago
  No, I probably wouldn't. I don't trust any government party to determine the objective truth. Think about what you are advocating; you want to give the government power to erase content they claim is wrong. "You claim Duterte advocated extrajudicial hit squads? That's libel, take it down. Or else."
  - CPLX 10y ago
    There's plenty of established precedent for this, and of course a head of state would qualify as a public figure under any libel or slander claim. I am strongly in favor of the first amendment, and would be opposed to prior restraint. None of those things have anything to do with the example I gave however.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  This outlandish scenario reads to me like, "won't somebody please think of the children?" How could a normal person inspire such behavior? Having inspired it, what normal person could receive a satisfactory remedy through the courts? (Many people would seek that, but they'd often be disappointed...) Besides, this scenario only takes one step. Think it through a bit further. If such bizarre attacks become common, they'll lose their power because they'll no longer be believed. That would be a much better world than one in which lawyers must be hired every time an unsatisfactory restaurant review is written.
  - CPLX 10y ago
    There's nothing hypothetical at all about using scandalous or embarrassing information about regular people to generate revenue. Some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mug_shot_publishing_industry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mug_shot_publishing_industry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law