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There are severe limitations on how far Alfie Kohn and his following will follow the implications of his ideas. They have gone so far as to ban discussion of ce

by curi 19y ago

There are severe limitations on how far Alfie Kohn and his following will follow the implications of his ideas. They have gone so far as to ban discussion of certain ideas, basically because parents were too uncomfortable about being asked to do that much better.

Alex3917 19y ago
I'm really interested in this. Do you have any links, or else could you post/email_me a synopsis of what's going on.
- curi 19y ago
  There are ideas called "Taking Children Seriously" (TCS) and the UP (Unconditional Parenting is a book by Alfie Kohn) forum was closed down to avoid those ideas and the yahoogroup explicitly bans any discussion of TCS -- even when a newbie shows up and asks what TCS is and how it differs from UP, they won't get an answer. The only reason the TCS label is relevant is because that's the way in which they explicitly target which ideas are banned. If I post anonymously and without mentioning the TCS label I would still be unwelcome if I posted exploring certain lines of thought, which are what's actually unwanted. They want a "supportive atmosphere" which means little criticism (of ideas). This is not unusual. Pretty much no one is philosophically serious about parenting or education, today. Feel free to email me at curi@curi.us for more details or reply here. Edit: sigh, Alfie had the major relevant thread on his forum deleted from archive.org, all I seem to have are some partial quotes in AIM logs.
  - curi 19y ago
    Heh I tricked archive.org and got the first page of the thread i wanted and found: "Part of the problem here, some argue, is a lack of clarity or transparency in those posts, such that people whose views closely correspond to TCS generally don’t identify themselves as such." -- Alfie Kohn He wanted TCS people to wear identifying stars, if you know what I mean.

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There are severe limitations on how far Alfie Kohn and his following will follow the implications of his ideas. They have gone so far as to ban discussion of ce

by curi 19y ago

Alex3917 19y ago
I'm really interested in this. Do you have any links, or else could you post/email_me a synopsis of what's going on.
- curi 19y ago
  There are ideas called "Taking Children Seriously" (TCS) and the UP (Unconditional Parenting is a book by Alfie Kohn) forum was closed down to avoid those ideas and the yahoogroup explicitly bans any discussion of TCS -- even when a newbie shows up and asks what TCS is and how it differs from UP, they won't get an answer. The only reason the TCS label is relevant is because that's the way in which they explicitly target which ideas are banned. If I post anonymously and without mentioning the TCS label I would still be unwelcome if I posted exploring certain lines of thought, which are what's actually unwanted. They want a "supportive atmosphere" which means little criticism (of ideas). This is not unusual. Pretty much no one is philosophically serious about parenting or education, today. Feel free to email me at curi@curi.us for more details or reply here. Edit: sigh, Alfie had the major relevant thread on his forum deleted from archive.org, all I seem to have are some partial quotes in AIM logs.
  - curi 19y ago
    Heh I tricked archive.org and got the first page of the thread i wanted and found: "Part of the problem here, some argue, is a lack of clarity or transparency in those posts, such that people whose views closely correspond to TCS generally don’t identify themselves as such." -- Alfie Kohn He wanted TCS people to wear identifying stars, if you know what I mean.