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This tech, of course, has utility for many professions beyond journalism. Given the expansive nature of our laws, it is impossible for anyone not to break a law

by tspike 10y ago

This tech, of course, has utility for many professions beyond journalism. Given the expansive nature of our laws, it is impossible for anyone not to break a law at some point. When it's possible to simply search a massive database for any transgression, enforcement becomes an arbitrary endeavor. What checks can be put in place for this?

sverige 10y ago
We could stop making certain kinds of speech illegal. (Not including "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater.")
- dredmorbius 10y ago
  This goes far beyond speech. Fraud, misrepresentation, drug use, sexual harassment, conspiracy, aiding and abetting, stolen property, just off the top of my head. Drawn from financial records, statements, documents, phone calls, social graphs, etc. You're coming across as rather too narrowly focused.
  - jimmytidey 10y ago
    The speech isn't illegal. In this case someone is indicating that in the past they've sexually assaulted someone. The speech is just evidence pointing towards the act, and the act is the problem.
    - dredmorbius 10y ago
      My point isn't that the speech is illegal. It's that there are vast huge classes of criminal conduct which, merited or otherwise could almost certainly be applied against virtually anyone you cared to, with pervasive audio monitoring and search. Cardinal Richelieu wrote some six lines or so on this subject. You should look them up. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu (Or perhaps not, the authenticity is, as many things are, disputed. But he carries the blame. Which is perhaps the most poetic justice of this point. Or is it injustice. Words, words, words.)
      - lmm 10y ago
        > Cardinal Richelieu wrote some six lines or so on this subject. Which tells you that this problem is not new by any means.
        dredmorbius 10y ago
        Scales and rates matter.
hx87 10y ago
If nothing else, mutually assured destruction.

by tspike 10y ago

sverige 10y ago

We could stop making certain kinds of speech illegal. (Not including "yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater.")

dredmorbius 10y ago
This goes far beyond speech. Fraud, misrepresentation, drug use, sexual harassment, conspiracy, aiding and abetting, stolen property, just off the top of my head. Drawn from financial records, statements, documents, phone calls, social graphs, etc. You're coming across as rather too narrowly focused.
- jimmytidey 10y ago
  The speech isn't illegal. In this case someone is indicating that in the past they've sexually assaulted someone. The speech is just evidence pointing towards the act, and the act is the problem.
  - dredmorbius 10y ago
    My point isn't that the speech is illegal. It's that there are vast huge classes of criminal conduct which, merited or otherwise could almost certainly be applied against virtually anyone you cared to, with pervasive audio monitoring and search. Cardinal Richelieu wrote some six lines or so on this subject. You should look them up. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu (Or perhaps not, the authenticity is, as many things are, disputed. But he carries the blame. Which is perhaps the most poetic justice of this point. Or is it injustice. Words, words, words.)
    - lmm 10y ago
      > Cardinal Richelieu wrote some six lines or so on this subject. Which tells you that this problem is not new by any means.
      - dredmorbius 10y ago
        Scales and rates matter.

hx87 10y ago

If nothing else, mutually assured destruction.