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"college-student bar-pickup and frat culture has very low HIV infection rates, even for people with 30+ partners and regular unprotected sex" Citation needed.
by praptak 17y ago
"college-student bar-pickup and frat culture has very low HIV infection rates, even for people with 30+ partners and regular unprotected sex"
Citation needed. I seriously doubt a major group of people can keep low infection rates with 30+ partners and regular unprotected sex. The only rational explanation would be regular HIV tests plus stopping on positive result - seems implausible.
- Retric 17y agoFor disease transmission it's less important how much people connect inside small groups but how much those groups connect to other groups. The issue is when someone get's infected with something vary quickly the whole group becomes infected.
- araneae 17y agoRight. For instance, models have shown that IV drug users are an extremely important group because they connect the heterosexual and gay pools of susceptible.
- jcnnghm 17y agoIn the US, AIDS is almost entirely confined to people that are either gay, or needle drug users.
- spamizbad 17y agoIf by "almost entirely confined" you mean approximately 70-75%[1]. This shouldn't be surprising: US culture pushes homosexuality underground, and is mostly uninterested in treating IV drug users outside of a few liberal enclaves. [1] http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5739a2.htm http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5739a2.htm
- jcnnghm 17y agoMaybe you're looking somewhere I'm not, but the 0.8% figure under the 'Other' Category would seem to support what I'm saying, since it excludes people knowing sleeping with people that are known to have AIDS, Needle Drug users, and gay males.
- spamizbad 17y agoI really can't believe I'm having this argument in 2010. You stated that it was confined to Gays and IV drug users. It's not. The statistics show heterosexuals contracting it. Whether they get it because they're sleeping with an IV drug user, someone who is homosexual, or another heterosexual who is classified as "high risk" doesn't matter: they're straight and they have HIV, therefor it's not "contained" to gays and IV users.
- _delirium 17y agoI agree he phrased it too strongly, but you could accurately say that it's effectively confined to MSM, IV users, and those two groups' immediate sexual partners. That sort of analysis is pretty common in epidemiology, describing a particular outbreak as "confined to group A and immediate contacts of group A". For example, when looking at diseases associated with health-care workers, people in direct prolonged contact with them but who aren't themselves health-care workers, like family members, are often counted as basically honorary health-care workers (or at least treated as a group separate from the general public).
- joubert 17y agoLook at these demographics. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#exposure http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#exposur...
- jcnnghm 17y agoThey support what I'm saying. Only 1.8% of people that contracted Aids did so through normal heterosexual contact.
- hexis 17y agoYes, but while "High-risk heterosexual contact" may be non-normal, it is also neither homosexual sex nor intravenous drug use.
- joubert 17y agoOne contracts HIV from high risk sexual behavior, whether homosexual or heterosexual.
- joubert 17y agoRather, one can contract.... not necessarily and not exclusively.
- joeyo 17y agoHere are the data for 2007: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#hivaidsexposure http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm#hivaids... Estimated # of HIV/AIDS Cases, in 2007 Category | Adult & Adolescent Male | Adult & Adolescent Female | Total ----------------------------+-------------------------+---------------------------+------- Male-to-male sexual contact | 22,472 | - | 22,472 Injection drug use | 3,133 | 1,806 | 4,939 Male-to-male sexual contact | | | and injection drug use | 1,260 | - | 1,260 High-risk heterosexual | | | contact* | 4,551 | 9,076 | 13,627 Other** | 102 | 96 | 198 * Heterosexual contact with a person known to have, or to be at high risk for, HIV infection. **Includes hemophilia, blood transfusion, perinatal exposure, and risk not reported or not identified.