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I wouldn't have to be rude if cyclists rode at walking speed safely and courteously. Some cyclists are incredibly self-entitled. Of course, I think we need sti

by pooper 10y ago

I wouldn't have to be rude if cyclists rode at walking speed safely and courteously. Some cyclists are incredibly self-entitled. Of course, I think we need stiff penalties for cars hitting cyclists. However, cyclists need to know they are second class citizens on the side walk. Yes, cars not coming to a full stop is a problem. But saying something else us wrong doesn't make me right. I'm glad you guys have a hug box going on here but if you can't ride safely on a bike lane, don't ride a bicycle. I shouldn't have to give way to cyclists speeding on the sidewalk. If you're at walking speed, you can ride behind me. No need to pass.

msandford 10y ago
>>> I'll bite. Any cyclist who rides on the sidewalk, runs a red light, or flaunts traffic convention in general absolutely deserves to be treated as a second class citizen. Your wheels don't belong on the sidewalk. I'm sorry if I sound rude. > But saying something else us wrong doesn't make me right. So are you saying that because cyclists do wrong stuff, cars can also do wrong stuff? Or are you contradicting yourself when convenient so that you can attempt to win an argument? Your statements are not terribly self-coherent.
ScottBurson 10y ago
> cyclists need to know they are second class citizens on the side walk. Agreed.
TulliusCicero 10y ago
> However, cyclists need to know they are second class citizens on the side walk. As a cyclist I agree. However, at the same time, very few parts of the US have any safe infrastructure for bikes; it's completely understandable that your average joe cyclist wants to be in a place that's physically separated from cars, because he values his life.
thatcat 10y ago
>Some cyclists are incredibly self-entitled ... >you can ride behind me. No need to pass The bicycle stops balancing itself as you slow down to 2 mph due to reduced gyroscopic effects. The probability of bicycle accident might be lower at 5 mph, slightly faster than walking speed.

by pooper 10y ago

msandford 10y ago

>>> I'll bite. Any cyclist who rides on the sidewalk, runs a red light, or flaunts traffic convention in general absolutely deserves to be treated as a second class citizen. Your wheels don't belong on the sidewalk. I'm sorry if I sound rude. > But saying something else us wrong doesn't make me right. So are you saying that because cyclists do wrong stuff, cars can also do wrong stuff? Or are you contradicting yourself when convenient so that you can attempt to win an argument? Your statements are not terribly self-coherent.

ScottBurson 10y ago

> cyclists need to know they are second class citizens on the side walk. Agreed.

TulliusCicero 10y ago

> However, cyclists need to know they are second class citizens on the side walk. As a cyclist I agree. However, at the same time, very few parts of the US have any safe infrastructure for bikes; it's completely understandable that your average joe cyclist wants to be in a place that's physically separated from cars, because he values his life.

thatcat 10y ago

>Some cyclists are incredibly self-entitled ... >you can ride behind me. No need to pass The bicycle stops balancing itself as you slow down to 2 mph due to reduced gyroscopic effects. The probability of bicycle accident might be lower at 5 mph, slightly faster than walking speed.