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This problem (+ the fact that it still hasn't been fixed) and the pricing of recent big-brand models makes me consider buying from Chinese manufacturers suchs a

This problem (+ the fact that it still hasn't been fixed) and the pricing of recent big-brand models makes me consider buying from Chinese manufacturers suchs a Xiaomi, OnePlus etc

hueving 10y ago
Chinese manufacturers aren't exactly well known for good lithium battery safety. IIRC the entire reason amazon banned hoverboards was because they couldn't tell which Chinese manufacturers used safe batteries.
- kyriakos 10y ago
  I agree, this is part of my point. If the big brands manufacturing under stricter regulations still face the same problems then why pay the premium?
  - notyourwork 10y ago
    Why not say that or at least add that to your post in the first place/
    - kyriakos 10y ago
      I thought it was self explanatory. I guess it wasn't.
- x0x0 10y ago
  There's a difference between whatever-random-flybynight-hoverboard company and, say, Huawei or OnePlus. ... I hope. Cause I just bought a OnePlus 3 after being really disappointed by the Pixel phone. Like who made google think they could charge iphone money for a nexus -- $750 plus tax so over $800 to get something with 64G of space? The OnePlus has been out since June and while there are sporadic reports of fires (just like there are sporadic reports of iphone fires), there's nothing like the wave of reports of Samsung phones catching fire.
  - tluyben2 10y ago
    I have a Huawei p8 max and it is great. I have a cheap whitelabel Chinese Android as well and that is nice too: never overheats and has good battery life (and was $40). You need to reflash Android but other than that...
venomsnake 10y ago
Oneplus 3 is a gem. Probably the best android right now.
- andmarios 10y ago
  Have a look at LG G5 too. Similarly priced -in Europe at least- with good quality and innovation (normal + wide angle camera, always on screen). Also it has features missing from the plus (sd card, aptx, removable battery). I was on the market for a new device couple weeks ago and after an extensive search I went with the lg.
  - snovv_crash 10y ago
    The white temperature of the G5 screen is way too high. Just look at any comparison of the screens next to other phones. My personal solution was to put down the extra $80 (price difference at the time) and get an HTC10. Better camera, better sound, SD card, aptx, beautiful full metal construction, almost-stock android.
- jagermo 10y ago
  Like the pixel it does not support SD cards. That is a no go for me.
on_and_off 10y ago
the Pixel look really sweet if you can justify it : -awesome camera. I already have remarked with the 6P that having a reliable camera that is always in your pocket is really a big plus and something I do not want to give up. - performances & industrial design : Google spent a lot of efforts on the Pixels & 7.1 and it shows. Each micro stutter on a device annoys me since I spend a lot of time polishing how my apps run (I am an android engineer focusing on UI and perfs). I am probably biased but the Pixels look like good purchases to me. Other than that, I would have avoided Samsung anyway, even before the fires. The real life perfs of their devices has always been atrocious and they have a tendency to ruin the OS with tons of random unneeded features. The Moto G is usually the device recommended for the best bang for your bucks. Ironically, it is now a chinese device as well. You won't have to deal with any crazyness like the onePlus invites though.
- oneeyedpigeon 10y ago
  The pixel looks good, but it's so expensive. Is it really offering twice as much as the 6p?
  - on_and_off 10y ago
    So, I am probably biased : - as I said earlier, I spend a lot of time polishing the app I develop, so I tend to really appreciate a device with impeccable performances. I doubt that normal buyers focus that much on performances even though I think it is a very important aspect of a device. It is not just a matter of looking good, fluid animations are always a very important cue allowing to relay what is happening in the app. They don't work if you miss half the frames. -my company will probably buy me a Pixel, so I don't really know whether I would buy one. Off the top of my head, my issues with the 6P / things the Pixel can potentially do better : -Just a bit too big. I love the size of that screen, but I often mistype and I think it might be related to its size. Even the biggest Pixel is a bit smaller, so I am curious to see if it sits in the right spot for me. -Performances are unimpressive. Previous generations of Android devices showed each time a big leap in real world performances. Not that much with the 6P. It does not perform that badly but there are numerous micro hiccups. It looks like performances have plateaued in its generation. I am not sure how the pixel performs in that area (I am waiting for some real reviews for that) but it looks like some things like touch latency seems to have improved a lot with this phone. I am not sure how much of this will transfer to the 6P when it gets 7.1 though. -Better industrial design with the pixel. -Again, I think that a really good camera in your pocket is pretty important. The 6P is already pretty good in that regard. It is a bit slow to compose these HDR+ shots though. From the DxoMark test (https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Pixel-smartphone-camera-review-At-the-top https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Pixel-smartphone-camera-revi...), it looks like the pixel solves this. On top of that, unlimited storage in original quality is also something I really appreciate. So, is the pixel a better device ? it surely looks that way. Is it worth buying over the 6P (or even a Moto G) ? I don't know. It really depends on what you want, what you can afford (and are ready to spend) and how costly the device is in your region (especially with carrier subsidies).

This problem (+ the fact that it still hasn't been fixed) and the pricing of recent big-brand models makes me consider buying from Chinese manufacturers suchs a Xiaomi, OnePlus etc

hueving 10y ago

Chinese manufacturers aren't exactly well known for good lithium battery safety. IIRC the entire reason amazon banned hoverboards was because they couldn't tell which Chinese manufacturers used safe batteries.

kyriakos 10y ago
I agree, this is part of my point. If the big brands manufacturing under stricter regulations still face the same problems then why pay the premium?
- notyourwork 10y ago
  Why not say that or at least add that to your post in the first place/
  - kyriakos 10y ago
    I thought it was self explanatory. I guess it wasn't.
x0x0 10y ago
There's a difference between whatever-random-flybynight-hoverboard company and, say, Huawei or OnePlus. ... I hope. Cause I just bought a OnePlus 3 after being really disappointed by the Pixel phone. Like who made google think they could charge iphone money for a nexus -- $750 plus tax so over $800 to get something with 64G of space? The OnePlus has been out since June and while there are sporadic reports of fires (just like there are sporadic reports of iphone fires), there's nothing like the wave of reports of Samsung phones catching fire.
- tluyben2 10y ago
  I have a Huawei p8 max and it is great. I have a cheap whitelabel Chinese Android as well and that is nice too: never overheats and has good battery life (and was $40). You need to reflash Android but other than that...

venomsnake 10y ago

Oneplus 3 is a gem. Probably the best android right now.

andmarios 10y ago
Have a look at LG G5 too. Similarly priced -in Europe at least- with good quality and innovation (normal + wide angle camera, always on screen). Also it has features missing from the plus (sd card, aptx, removable battery). I was on the market for a new device couple weeks ago and after an extensive search I went with the lg.
- snovv_crash 10y ago
  The white temperature of the G5 screen is way too high. Just look at any comparison of the screens next to other phones. My personal solution was to put down the extra $80 (price difference at the time) and get an HTC10. Better camera, better sound, SD card, aptx, beautiful full metal construction, almost-stock android.
jagermo 10y ago
Like the pixel it does not support SD cards. That is a no go for me.

on_and_off 10y ago

the Pixel look really sweet if you can justify it : -awesome camera. I already have remarked with the 6P that having a reliable camera that is always in your pocket is really a big plus and something I do not want to give up. - performances & industrial design : Google spent a lot of efforts on the Pixels & 7.1 and it shows. Each micro stutter on a device annoys me since I spend a lot of time polishing how my apps run (I am an android engineer focusing on UI and perfs). I am probably biased but the Pixels look like good purchases to me. Other than that, I would have avoided Samsung anyway, even before the fires. The real life perfs of their devices has always been atrocious and they have a tendency to ruin the OS with tons of random unneeded features. The Moto G is usually the device recommended for the best bang for your bucks. Ironically, it is now a chinese device as well. You won't have to deal with any crazyness like the onePlus invites though.

oneeyedpigeon 10y ago
The pixel looks good, but it's so expensive. Is it really offering twice as much as the 6p?
- on_and_off 10y ago
  So, I am probably biased : - as I said earlier, I spend a lot of time polishing the app I develop, so I tend to really appreciate a device with impeccable performances. I doubt that normal buyers focus that much on performances even though I think it is a very important aspect of a device. It is not just a matter of looking good, fluid animations are always a very important cue allowing to relay what is happening in the app. They don't work if you miss half the frames. -my company will probably buy me a Pixel, so I don't really know whether I would buy one. Off the top of my head, my issues with the 6P / things the Pixel can potentially do better : -Just a bit too big. I love the size of that screen, but I often mistype and I think it might be related to its size. Even the biggest Pixel is a bit smaller, so I am curious to see if it sits in the right spot for me. -Performances are unimpressive. Previous generations of Android devices showed each time a big leap in real world performances. Not that much with the 6P. It does not perform that badly but there are numerous micro hiccups. It looks like performances have plateaued in its generation. I am not sure how the pixel performs in that area (I am waiting for some real reviews for that) but it looks like some things like touch latency seems to have improved a lot with this phone. I am not sure how much of this will transfer to the 6P when it gets 7.1 though. -Better industrial design with the pixel. -Again, I think that a really good camera in your pocket is pretty important. The 6P is already pretty good in that regard. It is a bit slow to compose these HDR+ shots though. From the DxoMark test (https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Pixel-smartphone-camera-review-At-the-top https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Pixel-smartphone-camera-revi...), it looks like the pixel solves this. On top of that, unlimited storage in original quality is also something I really appreciate. So, is the pixel a better device ? it surely looks that way. Is it worth buying over the 6P (or even a Moto G) ? I don't know. It really depends on what you want, what you can afford (and are ready to spend) and how costly the device is in your region (especially with carrier subsidies).