It wasn't my arguement. Care to clarify which argument you're attributing to me? >The point is that either you need a new argument, or you actually believe all

It wasn't my arguement. Care to clarify which argument you're attributing to me? >The point is that either you need a new argument, or you actually believe all of those things. No. I can't find one arguement in the thread above that requires 'believing all these things' -children being able to work in mines(appeal to emotion) is tangentially related we aren't even discussing child labor here. -fast food workers should absolutely be able to work for minimum wage, I did. Should it be raised? I think so, but again this is a tangentially related appeal to emotion.(seriously what did you mean with this one other than 'feel bad for poor people'? How is minimum wage relevant in this context?) -Employees should be able to sign off on all employment rights? Look a relevant point, and generally I agree they shouldn't be able to. Can you please clarify exactly how this arguement of mine can be used to show the three things you've outlined? Edit: The funny thing is I don't even disagree with you or the grandparent on the underlying issue here, I just find this constant strawman bullshit so grating.