> Americans have long debated the legacy of post-Sept. 11 interrogation methods, It is depressing to live in a supposed civilized society where torture is a va

> Americans have long debated the legacy of post-Sept. 11 interrogation methods, It is depressing to live in a supposed civilized society where torture is a valid topic of debate. Often I don't, but here I agree with Slavoj Zizek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57bdjIxfQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57bdjIxfQ0 He starts talking about Zero Dark Thirty movie, and then talks about how torture debate is normalized, and how there is something disturbing about that. He posits torture should be a topic like rape: nobody will take anyone seriously if they want to debate the benefits of rape. That person is automatically excluded from the conversation as a disgusting idiot. But here we are discussing and debating the benefits of torture. The hope is one day, torture will be the same, anyone who wants to even discuss its benefits is automatically a candidate for the looney bin.