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When you make a strict distinction between hooking up and dating, everything starts to make sense. Hooking up stats are rather clear: around 80% of women have
by imaginenore 10y ago
When you make a strict distinction between hooking up and dating, everything starts to make sense.
Hooking up stats are rather clear: around 80% of women have sex with around 20% of men. That's why an average looking guy on PoF/CL/Tinder/OkCupid has very little chance compared to real life.
This imbalance is actually caused by the guys. Your average guy will throw himself at almost any woman. You join a site, you go through profiles, you message the ones you like. You can easily message 100 girls and get 1 reply. Why? Because every other average guy is doing the same. So an average girl gets 100 messages a day, and there's no way she's replying to all of them - she will pick the top 5-10, and will talk to them.
If your face isn't good looking, don't worry. You can compensate with other things. Hit the gym, girls LOVE fit bodies, even though most of them you tell you they want someone funny/smart/interesting. Don't believe the words, believe the actions. When I started gaining muscle, women started paying attention. Other things that help are: confidence, ability to speak calmly and confidently, dressing better than average, treating women as humans, not as princesses.
If you want to meet lots of women IRL, pick up an activity with mostly women, like dance, yoga.
- mancerayder 10y agoHooking up stats are rather clear: around 80% of women have sex with around 20% of men. That's why an average looking guy on PoF/CL/Tinder/OkCupid has very little chance compared to real life. While I think this sounds very true, do you have a reference? It completely matches the experience in the city I live in, and I'd love to be able to quote it to people.
- imaginenore 10y agoSorry, speaking from my experience. And probably most guys experience. Everyone who has been to highschool can see it. OKCupid has some research, but they don't record actual sex encounters. They have stats like "As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium".
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- tomp 10y agoThe closest thing to "fact" is that about 1/3 of men alive historically have reproduced, compared to about 2/3 of women (or is it 40%-60%?).
- arctangent 10y agoParent's comment is entirely correct and shouldn't be downvoted. To learn more, read about hypergamy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy TLDR: All women seek higher status males, inevitably leading to the highest status males reproducing with more females.
- dragonzooord 10y agoThe key is that 'higher status', in this context, doesn't mean what it normally means. It took me a long time to figure that out. 'Higher status' means 'building muscle, confidence, ability to speak calmly and confidently, dressing better than average, treating women as humans, not as princesses.' Being a multimillionaire is not 'higher status' when it comes to meeting women (unless you make it to the hundred-millionaire state') Being a founder or a corporate exec is not 'higher status' when it comes to meeting women (unless you are C-suite at a fortune-500)
- NumberCruncher 10y agoDancing (I mean couple dancing) is the best way meeting new women. On the dancing floor there is a shortage of men and after a short "do you wanna dance?" question you have right away physical contact. Online dating is quite the opposite.