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or... 3. lives in the real world where there are seas of gray Being picky about clients and being able to afford to sue those who don't pay is one of my many p

by abz10 10y ago

or... 3. lives in the real world where there are seas of gray Being picky about clients and being able to afford to sue those who don't pay is one of my many privileges. Not everyone can afford to do this.

edanm 10y ago
This has nothing to do with suing clients. Taking some kind of revenge, in a way that's almost certainly actionable, is not really in a gray area - I don't think there is any situation in which it makes sense to do this. As for "being picky about clients", my second point above is indeed aspirational, and I'm sure not everyone can afford to choose their clients. That's my point. You need to realize, as quickly as you can, that you're better off moving to the kinds of clients that don't have these issues. I say this because many people honestly don't understand or believe that better clients exist, or at least don't internalize just how different it is to work for clients for whom these kinds of shenanigans are irrelevant. It really is a different world.
- abz10 10y ago
  I think most people don't understand how dirty the business world is. Lots of customers and vendors will deny delay and defend out of force of habit alone. I've had to threaten lawsuits a number of time. It was obvious I'd win so they'd settle last minute, but it's just how many people do business. It's much easier to build in something that will atrophy and let them know it'll fall apart if you don't tell them where it is. Much easier restitution. No fuss. Good clients go bad all the time, just like good marriages go bad. You can't rely on a filter. Most of the time there is no option but to work with certain people if you want to be in a particular industry. They're the worst. Just today I have a monopoly supplier that won't fix a very simple but show stopping bug, despite our contract, unless I pay them a lot more money which significantly eats into my margins. It will basically mean I'll be working for them for free, which is exactly how they want it. I have to make out that I'll go out of business, walk away, and they won't make anything. I'm sure we'll end up somewhere in the middle and we will both make a lot of money. If not I will have to go borrow a lot of money from a bank to build the component in house which will upset their monopoly. Just another day it the life of a start-up.
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by abz10 10y ago

edanm 10y ago

This has nothing to do with suing clients. Taking some kind of revenge, in a way that's almost certainly actionable, is not really in a gray area - I don't think there is any situation in which it makes sense to do this. As for "being picky about clients", my second point above is indeed aspirational, and I'm sure not everyone can afford to choose their clients. That's my point. You need to realize, as quickly as you can, that you're better off moving to the kinds of clients that don't have these issues. I say this because many people honestly don't understand or believe that better clients exist, or at least don't internalize just how different it is to work for clients for whom these kinds of shenanigans are irrelevant. It really is a different world.

abz10 10y ago
I think most people don't understand how dirty the business world is. Lots of customers and vendors will deny delay and defend out of force of habit alone. I've had to threaten lawsuits a number of time. It was obvious I'd win so they'd settle last minute, but it's just how many people do business. It's much easier to build in something that will atrophy and let them know it'll fall apart if you don't tell them where it is. Much easier restitution. No fuss. Good clients go bad all the time, just like good marriages go bad. You can't rely on a filter. Most of the time there is no option but to work with certain people if you want to be in a particular industry. They're the worst. Just today I have a monopoly supplier that won't fix a very simple but show stopping bug, despite our contract, unless I pay them a lot more money which significantly eats into my margins. It will basically mean I'll be working for them for free, which is exactly how they want it. I have to make out that I'll go out of business, walk away, and they won't make anything. I'm sure we'll end up somewhere in the middle and we will both make a lot of money. If not I will have to go borrow a lot of money from a bank to build the component in house which will upset their monopoly. Just another day it the life of a start-up.
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