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I should get a couple of people from around here (Native American reservation) to sign up and see how messy their policy is. If you cannot validate names, then

I should get a couple of people from around here (Native American reservation) to sign up and see how messy their policy is. If you cannot validate names, then you probably should not use a real name policy. It bad enough Facebook (and I guess Quora) causes people pain, don't add your own wounds.

Cyph0n 10y ago
Haha, now I'm curious! Could you please provide some examples of Native American names?
- M_Grey 10y ago
  Yee Naaldlooshii. I'll show myself out.
  - GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
    I had to google but: why would you post this.
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- protomyth 10y ago
  Yellow Bird tends to get banned by Facebook. Good Iron is another favorite ban. Never mind those that actually use their name in their native language. Plus, there is the whole concept of birth name and name after a naming ceremony. Plenty of opportunities for a ethnocentric policy to add some pain into the world.
- hornetblack 10y ago
  There's a few on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_real-name_policy_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_real-name_policy_cont... Eg: Robin Kills the Enemy
  - SSLy 10y ago
    Isn't that SV/WASP-centric policy virtually racism?
    - protomyth 10y ago
      I chalk it up to Hollywood and ignorance, but there have been some spirited defenses of their policy that bordered on it. for further reading: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7364933 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7364933 search for my username, I'm still thinking ignorance
dawnerd 10y ago
Facebook's policy is so weird. I have a ton of older test accounts that literally include TEST and other such very obvious fake text in the name.
- protomyth 10y ago
  Oh sure, you getaway with test and I have kids coming to me in tears because Facebook killed their account. I'm the local sysadmin, but I can't help with SV companies without an actual contact number.
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- lucaspiller 10y ago
  Just need to name your kids Testy McTest. Problem solved!
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- simcop2387 10y ago
  I got upset when they went through and deleted all locations that weren't mappable. I used to have my location as one in the moon for fun, then they deleted that and wouldn't let me set one unless the address was available in their geolocation service
- geomark 10y ago
  Yeah. I've done some work for other people and businesses in their Facebook accounts but never signed up myself. Recently I tried to sign up just so I could add Facebook Login to one of my apps. Used my real name, verified my email and mobile number, and account was immediately blocked, requiring me to send in a scan of my id. Nope.
ubernostrum 10y ago
I have a friend who, courtesy of some... let's say unique parents, was graced with multiple middle names and then multiple hyphenated (and unhyphenated) family names as her parents divorced, remarried and she moved between households. Then she got married herself and tacked her husband's last name onto the end of it. Her legal name at this point clocks in at enough words and characters to not fit in most government databases. I've been tempted once or twice to create a similar but fake name to use as a test case for things that handle identity information.
- protomyth 10y ago
  Got a friend from Bangladesh that has the same problem. He went with first, last, and a string of middle initials. Still has problems. I often think we need a whole class in college on these type of issues. Probably right after the ethics class.
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  - wlesieutre 10y ago
    Names: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-... Time: http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programm... Addresses: https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-addresses/ https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-a... Geography: http://wiesmann.codiferes.net/wordpress/?p=15187&lang=en http://wiesmann.codiferes.net/wordpress/?p=15187&lang=en
    - mdadm 10y ago
      > Names: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-... 32. People’s names are assigned at birth. 33. OK, maybe not at birth, but at least pretty close to birth. 34. Alright, alright, within a year or so of birth. 35. Five years? 36. You’re kidding me, right? I must know what case there is of this, and who exactly was the poor soul to stumble upon it...

Cyph0n 10y ago

Haha, now I'm curious! Could you please provide some examples of Native American names?

M_Grey 10y ago
Yee Naaldlooshii. I'll show myself out.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  I had to google but: why would you post this.
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
protomyth 10y ago
Yellow Bird tends to get banned by Facebook. Good Iron is another favorite ban. Never mind those that actually use their name in their native language. Plus, there is the whole concept of birth name and name after a naming ceremony. Plenty of opportunities for a ethnocentric policy to add some pain into the world.
hornetblack 10y ago
There's a few on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_real-name_policy_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_real-name_policy_cont... Eg: Robin Kills the Enemy
- SSLy 10y ago
  Isn't that SV/WASP-centric policy virtually racism?
  - protomyth 10y ago
    I chalk it up to Hollywood and ignorance, but there have been some spirited defenses of their policy that bordered on it. for further reading: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7364933 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7364933 search for my username, I'm still thinking ignorance

dawnerd 10y ago

Facebook's policy is so weird. I have a ton of older test accounts that literally include TEST and other such very obvious fake text in the name.

protomyth 10y ago
Oh sure, you getaway with test and I have kids coming to me in tears because Facebook killed their account. I'm the local sysadmin, but I can't help with SV companies without an actual contact number.
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lucaspiller 10y ago
Just need to name your kids Testy McTest. Problem solved!
- deleted 10y ago
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simcop2387 10y ago
I got upset when they went through and deleted all locations that weren't mappable. I used to have my location as one in the moon for fun, then they deleted that and wouldn't let me set one unless the address was available in their geolocation service
geomark 10y ago
Yeah. I've done some work for other people and businesses in their Facebook accounts but never signed up myself. Recently I tried to sign up just so I could add Facebook Login to one of my apps. Used my real name, verified my email and mobile number, and account was immediately blocked, requiring me to send in a scan of my id. Nope.

ubernostrum 10y ago

I have a friend who, courtesy of some... let's say unique parents, was graced with multiple middle names and then multiple hyphenated (and unhyphenated) family names as her parents divorced, remarried and she moved between households. Then she got married herself and tacked her husband's last name onto the end of it. Her legal name at this point clocks in at enough words and characters to not fit in most government databases. I've been tempted once or twice to create a similar but fake name to use as a test case for things that handle identity information.

protomyth 10y ago
Got a friend from Bangladesh that has the same problem. He went with first, last, and a string of middle initials. Still has problems. I often think we need a whole class in college on these type of issues. Probably right after the ethics class.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- wlesieutre 10y ago
  Names: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-... Time: http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-time http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-programm... Addresses: https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-addresses/ https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-a... Geography: http://wiesmann.codiferes.net/wordpress/?p=15187&lang=en http://wiesmann.codiferes.net/wordpress/?p=15187&lang=en
  - mdadm 10y ago
    > Names: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-... 32. People’s names are assigned at birth. 33. OK, maybe not at birth, but at least pretty close to birth. 34. Alright, alright, within a year or so of birth. 35. Five years? 36. You’re kidding me, right? I must know what case there is of this, and who exactly was the poor soul to stumble upon it...